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mlife bellagio table ratings info maybe we can all add into this thread

Discussion in 'Comps' started by paperposter, Jul 30, 2014.

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  1. sindustry

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    ADT would be daily. When figuring a period of time, I believe they take an average.
     
  2. Gamesman

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    Yes, but an average over what periodicity our number of trips? My ADT will be higher over the last than than if they look at the last year.
     
  3. sindustry

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    I am not positive on this, so hopefully someone who knows better will chime in, but, I think the casino takes an average for each trip. When looking back at historical play, I think they look at those trip averages. Increasing trip averages would obviously look better than decreasing trip averages.
     
  4. Gamesman

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    OK, thanks. I'll look into a little more, might just ask a host.
     
  5. undathesea

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    I think this is true of MGM casinos. I'm pretty sure CET does it by day.
     
  6. paperposter

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    mlife considers a trip a 3 day period if your not a local , then it resets. more than that i dont know,

    i know they can look at your year avarage and , each property if the want to.
     
  7. Kickin

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    CET looks back at 12-15 months of play to generate offers. Not sure how long MGM looks back but I think its been posted here by others, probably the same ~12 months. ADT means the same thing for both (or marketing daily value - MDV is I think what CET calls it), the only difference is what they consider a day. For CET a new day is triggered anytime after 6am at most properties, but its been posted that MGM looks at an entire trip and splits it up by nights. So a 3 night 4 day stay would be considered 3 days of play at MGM but 4 days at CET if you played on that last day.
     
  8. paperposter

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    mlife day change is 3 am in vegas
     
  9. chonglosaxon

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    I know they rate my play based off of 2% at craps at mlife. I do not play perfect strategy but i sat there and watched her plug it into the equation for my comps last time. I even asked her.

    I think it is a player by player equation at certain levels. The general public may be the .76 but assure you i received a higher rating.
     
  10. Kickin

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    The 0.76 isn't the house edge, its your hourly theo as a proportion of your average bet. So if your average was was $100 you'd be generating $76 of theo per hour. It is just the (HA * #hands per hour). So if your HA is 2% and you had 38 rolls per hour you'd get 0.76. In the Wizard's table it lists they use a 1.58% HA and 48 rolls per hour for craps. Its strange to think that your host would be inputting the house edge into the system on her own but maybe for craps they are able to do that since people play in such different ways.
     
  11. jdvegas

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    This is good stuff - I had not sen that table before. Like me, you have simplified things by just using a single number to represent bets/hr*HA. After looking at the table and reviewing the detailed accurate stats from my last few trips, I really think the table is wrong. If you up the number of hands from 70 to 72 (to match Baccarat), then everything falls into place perfectly for me.

    So 72 hands vs 70 = .54 vs .525.

    Anyone else who is pure BJ player and has detailed stats, it would be great to see what your stats work out to.
     
  12. RC

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    Thanks PP
     
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