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Slots Mirage High Limit Slot Room

Discussion in 'Slots' started by Vegas55, Jul 5, 2017.

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  1. Vegas55

    Vegas55 Low-Roller

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    For those of you that have visited lately a few questions.
    How many machines ? A mixture of old and new ?
    Do they have food and and a restroom within the area ?
    Is a cashier located inside.
    Thanks
     
  2. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    A fair mix of machines. Been there a few times. Did not notice food or restrooms, but ???

    Yes to cashier - no chance to visit -damn. Last time there I went from $800 down to $3k up to nothing left in an hour. Shit happens.
     
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    hi,there 2 pairs of restrooms,1 in the slot area and 1 next to bar in table games area next door.
    there is a food/seating area at the rear but not sure if small buffet is still served.
     
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    Don't play there a real shithole Machine never pay decent unfriendly service no food no good a real dump Best high limit slots TI they pay good stay away from MGM properties they set machines at low payouts
     
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  5. Vegas55

    Vegas55 Low-Roller

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    periods and commas please. LOL
     
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  6. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    Nah.. we are supposed to guess what he was trying to say. LOL!
     
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    Considering that all Vegas are regulated by the NGC, I doubt that MGM is being that conniving. You're welcome, of course, to check the publicly available data to make that assessment for yourself.
     
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    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    Not sure if there is public data on the hold percentage for each casino. Mirage could easily set their machines 5% tighter than another casino. Yes?

    (assuming the are still above the minimum required)
     
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    You're right, it's clustered by county so you don't know who's hold is greater than the other's but the implication is that they're all within operative norms and regulations. I kinda want to know how the NGC does their audits.
     
  10. Grid

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    That is correct, you have zero way to know which casinos holds what. They are all grouped by area. Treasure Island, and their one casino, might payback on average 95%. But combined with Wynn, V/P, CET & MGM all holding, say 90%. The overall reported payback on the strip would be 90.2%.

    I'm, pulling those numbers out of my asshole, but you get the point. There is zero way to actually know that TI is 50% more fair than the Mirage next door when it comes to slots. It all gets lumped together.

    As for regulations, I believe machines in state cant be lower than 20% hold. That is 80% payback. So as long as the NGC doesnt start seeing 25% holds being reported, there is nothing for them to audit.
     
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    A recent TR pins Venetian at 15% -- that's nutty!
     
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    Anecdotal evidence at best, but I'd bet it really isn't that far off. I stopped staying/playing at V/P since I would always lose, and fast. And my coin-in was almost half of what I get with the same bankroll at Treasure Island. I play the same games, the same way no matter where I am. Just looking at my last few years of gaming, this is my list of best to shittest for slots and what I can only assume their returns are.

    Treasure Island 93%
    MGM Casinos 90%
    CET Casinos 88%
    Venetian Palazzo 88%

    Those players represent the vast majority of the strip. Add in SLS, Circus Circus & Trop which are probably better than MGM/CET/VP and I'd put slots at 89% overall.

    I know the reported paybacks on the strip are 91.84% YTD (current through June) but those reflect Video Poker numbers as well.

    If you take a look at the newest slot machine sell sheets you'll see most flavors come in 84-96%payback. The casino gets to pick. Vegas strip operators, knowing players flock to the newest penny titles, probably pick ones around 86% and those in Reno, where they need to target the value shoppers might go with 94%
     
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  13. spdandpwr

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    Funny, your insight feels right -- I get absolutely creamed at the V/P and CET. I'm actually performing much better at the Wynn versus those too. Sucks that you can't get comps without serious slot play, but you can't get serious slot play without risking a lot. Almost is better to just pay for your room / food outright.
     
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    I have had marvelous luck at TI's high limit room. Last year, I hit 2 $1900 jackpots on the Pink Diamond $2.00 machine (betting $4/spin); and then hit on the Wheel of Fortune in there for another $850. I felt bullet proof and invisible that day!!! Hope to repeat it coming soon!
     
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    They do have okay selection of high limit slot (not a huge slot player, couldn’t give you exact types) but what @archie wrote about bathroom (2) is correct and they do have lounge in the back but they no longer serves any type of buffet (last year I remember they having some chips but that was it, only few literally) but I agree with @nostresshere mirage slots sucks so bad I just came back after spending 4 nights and man wife and I went thru some good $$& (penny slots) and lost!!! They were very tight!!!! Did much better palazzo.
     
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    I see folks report the holds based on a trip, or even multiple trips to a casino.

    Sorry, but unless they are running a hundred thousand through the machine, there is no way to know. You do realize some folks can walk into the place and go through $5,000 and leave with nothing, right? What was the hold on that? Or the guy that walks in and plays $100 and wins $5,000. Pretty good hold on that deal.
     
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    Where can i find this slot?
     
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    This is true at most casinos but I recall Venetian provides comps/points based on theo. The person only played a $5 slot and was quite surprised at the hold that was implied by the level of comps.
     
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    I think that was probably me. And yeah, it was kind of a jaw-dropper.

    V/P gives points based on theo. At the base level, 10 points per $1 of theo. Run $100 through a slot and see how many points you get, divide by 10 and that's your hold %. I did it in July and it was 12.5% on the two Double Diamond machines I played with an 800/1,600 paytable. One machine had a $1 min denom with a $5 denom option (it may have had higher denom options than $5, I don't remember), and it was 12.5% at both $1 and $5. And I played a machine with the same paytable where $5 was the only denom, and it was also 12.5%. I only stayed one night because I hosted a group pull, and I was pressed for time so didn't try out other machines.

    After that trip, they sent me a great offer so I'm staying there for a couple of nights in January and I'm going to run $100 through a larger variety of machines this time. But if I find the same thing across the board, I doubt I'll stay there again, although it's true there's no way to know how any other joint has their slot machines set unless they have signage. No way I'm knowingly paying 12.5% on a $5 denom, that's steep even for $1.
     
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  20. luck.ofthe.draw

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    I wasn't too impressed by the looks of Mirage's high limit room when I was there last month. I'd rather spend time at the Cosmo's high limit....I did like Monte Carlo's as well, back in the day. I just thought the Mirage's HL was lacking in machine selection and denom selection.
     
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