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MGM plans on raising resort fees

Discussion in 'LV Strip Hotels & Casinos' started by DaiLun, Feb 28, 2018.

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  1. DaiLun

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    From the article:

    "Traveler’s United, a Washington, D.C.-based nonprofit advocacy group, has been among those leading the fight against resort fees. The legality of imposing resort fees is currently being investigated by attorney generals [sic] in 46 states as well as the District of Columbia.

    "Nevada is among the four states not investigating the fees. That hasn’t stopped disgruntled Las Vegas visitors from taking their case to court. A class action lawsuit relating to internet fees at Wynn Las Vegas was filed in November."

    But like casinos and hosts, Nevada LOVES players/guests.
     
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    Is that even a news?
    I thought they are constantly increasing the resort fees, aren't they?
     
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    I saw it explained before and I can't quite remember the details.

    Why do they choose to charge a resort fee instead of incorporating it into the room price? Was there a reason other than drawing customers in for the cheap room price?
     
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    The fees are more transparent now but they are still an added charge for nothing more than the services that hotels should offer their customers as part of the price of the room. I've never gotten a single thing "extra" for the price of a resort fee that was not already part of the menu of services at a particular place before resort fees started. Calling it a "resort fee" in some of the places charging it is just plain insulting. They will never, ever be "resorts"...

    These fees are different in my mind from baggage fees and such, where you actually get something for the payment of the fee. Don't get me wrong; I hate those too, but I do get to check a bag for the fee and those who don't pay it (unless they have status or something of that sort) don't get to check one. Of course, those services were also previously part of the price of the ticket.

    I am all for making all fees for services that everyone gets and everyone pays for part of the total price. Only extra services should be above the standard charge.

    I have my doubts that it will ever happen.
     
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    Because sometimes on comped rooms you are charged resort fees, and sometimes you're not. It depends on the comp.
     
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    Another theory I've seen is that it allows them to not share that revenue with room brokers like trivago, priceline, Hotels.com , etc. Also, many comped rooms do not cover the resort fee, so it gives them the ability to "comp" a room and still generate revenue.
     
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    Gotta love resort fees. Oh you want wifi in your room? That's extra, oh you want to use the pool? That's extra LOL You would think the resort fee would cover that stuff
     
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    I was thinking, if I played at a level to get comp carte blanche, and somehow my resort fee was not waived, I certainly could vote with my feet. Or, if I like the treatment otherwise, I'd just hold back one bet daily and save more than the fee exacted.

    I know that sounds like so much of a convolution, maybe a junkie's rationalization, but, really, in the grand scheme ...

    What's my cost? I can do the math.
     
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    I believe that is what it was. I thought it was something to do with keeping more revenue to themselves but couldn't remember exactly why.
     
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    Yup - they keep all those fees and don't have to share with travel agents (online or not). Plus when you do a search for hotels the nightly price comes up to make it look like it's affordable (smoke and mirrors) and competitive. Same reason airlines are charging baggage fees as they can "keep" their fares in line and stick it to you that way.
     
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    In 10 years, will we be talking about $99 resort fees? I wonder if/when the casinos will stop. And why should they?

    Why not offer a room at NYNY for only $49 plus resort fee of $80? Still a deal at $129 plus tax.

    Hotels/casinos have come to depend upon third parties to help fill their rooms. I’d have to imagine this practice dates back to the pre-Internet days. But nowadays, a Vegas casino can do so much more with limited labor thanks to the Internet. It makes me wonder why they hold onto their third-party dealings.

    Southwest seems to be a popular, successful, affordable alternative to the major carriers without having the reputation of Spirit, and it survives without relying upon Travelocity, et al, to put butts in the seats.

    I’m sure there are very good reasons why they won’t, but what if one of the major players, such as MGM or Caesars, went the Southwest route. Instead of playing the resort fee game, the hotels would take on all their inventory booking/selling thru their websites. The prices would still fluctuate, based upon demand and other market conditions, but you’d book your room without having to jump thru Expedia’s hoops, and the rate promoted would be the rate you pay, not rate plus $39, pre-tax.

    Obvious downsides: Comps could be discounted rooms or 2-for-1 offers, but a casino couldn’t collect anything on a free room if there was no resort fee in play.

    Also, the price of a decent room doesn’t sound as sexy when you don’t have a resort fee. A room for only $89/night sounds like a great deal, even if you know you have to pay a resort fee, and tax. But a room for $128 plus tax doesn’t seem like such a bargain, unless it’s at the Cosmo, despite the fact it’s the exact same rate as $89 plus $39.

    I’d love to see one of the chains, be it Boyd or Station Casinos, take the bold step and bring it all in house, but I suspect the dependency upon search engines for booking/researching options is too great for any one chain to be bold enough to strike out on its own.

    I bet it could be successfully done by an established casino group that already has millions of registered and loyal players. I doubt we'll ever find out.
     
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    Potential up to $39! A DAY!

    I believe in paying for use of services but in the modern era of cell phones, is unlimited local and toll free calling really a “service”?

    Printing airline boarding passes. Ummm... download the Airlines app.

    And who the heck is using a notary at the casino?

    It is crazy that resort fees for a 5-night stay at the upper tier places is about equal to the cost of a nice steak dinner and a glass of wine for 2 at an upscale restaurant. We need to let America’s ranchers know that beef sales are being threatened by these excessive fees!
     
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    Why do they do it?
    Simple. MONEY

    It does not show when you do a search on their site or others.
    They do not pay commission on 3rd party sites.
    Many of those with comp rooms still pay the resort fee.
    Just business.

    It sucks and is stupid from the perspective of most customers, but it appears to be working for the hotels.
     
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    Yea, we all hate the fee.

    I wonder if anyone has done a study on what the tenure/turnover of front desk clerks is with the addition, and each uptick in these fees? They must really get a great deal of crap from customers over this.
     
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    I really wonder who pays Aria regular room rates plus the resort fee.

    It's highway robbery! I will keep going until the offers stop giving me decent food/freeplay comp.
     
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    They'll keep doing it as long as they can and get it as high as they can. Find that outer limit and then dial it back "because they heard our cries"....awwwwwww..... eff them.
     
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    Highway robbery?

    How much are flights to Hawaii? Priced Disneyland lately?
     
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    People with a lot of disposable income.
     
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