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M-Life Changes

Discussion in 'Comps' started by Carol1113, Oct 2, 2019.

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  1. Carol1113

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    Wondering if anyone has gone to the m-life desk and gotten anymore detailed info on the changes that went into effect Oct 1st.
    What was posted was kind of vague.
     
  2. black29

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    For me the big change occured in July when they gave all tier levels a 10% max discount on rooms. My home casino is National Harbor, so the changes that went global were already in effect for me last year.

    I am really bummed about the hotel discount though, being Platinum has no real advantage now, except for my special parking garage and elevator at National Harbor.
     
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  3. nostresshere

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    The key word is VAGUE.

    "To better align member experiences at all M life Rewards destinations nationwide, we will standardize the way we calculate Express Comps earned playing slots. Beginning October 1, Express Comps will be calculated based on time played, average bet, and game type."


    And here is the real kicker:

    5. Where do I find additional information about these changes?
    Please visit the M life Rewards desk or contact Member Services for more information.
     
  4. SMG

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    This sounds similar to what Boyd did to their BConnected members when they changed their program a year ago. :rolleyes2:
     
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    Blah-blah-blah-yadda-yadda-yadda-rig-a-morole. Just an official-sounding, word-jumbled ball of nothing.
     
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    That was my cue to say bye bye to Mlife and hello Wynn/Encore and Caesars. I've got Platinum for one more year. I'll take their free cruise, eat the cookies at NYNY vip and not spend a dime with them.
     
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    My new offers came in and they are the best i have ever been offered, suites everywhere (including bellagio and Aria - which i have never been offered before) $325 fp (same as last few offers) and $100 - $300 in resort credit depending on resort).... my play was down last year on the previous year so i am happy out.
     
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  8. WHU66

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    Exactly the same for me, suites now and $350 f&b and $325 fp, upfrom around $150 last year. Booked 2 visits on this basis.....
     
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    Sometimes folks do a group slot pull. How about this next time?

    Group Head Bashing. We all go to various Mlife Desks and ask them to explain this new system. After a few "vague" answers from the boothling and the just as vague supervisor, we then go beat our heads.

    Nobody wins... but I guess that is the point.

    LOL!
     
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  10. Drewm1972

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    This new changes, According to the website sounds like people will earned express cops on table games in Vegas?? Or did I miss read it?
     
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    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    The part I posted (post #3) only used the word "slots". They of course can be changing other things as well.
     
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    What was your play on your last trip?
     
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    So...

    $1 coin in is still 1 tier credit
    $10 coin in is still 1 point (for VP, less for slots)

    but, earning express comps is our mystery right?? It’s went to theo, time played, average bet, etc correct?
     
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    The calc of Tier Credits isn't changing.

    For ECs, it doesn't mention theo. It says game type, which is not the same thing.

    This will make for a good experiment:
    • Sit at a 3-reel $1 denom, do 10 spins a minute for 15 minutes
    • Pull your card out
    • See how much you got in ECs (assuming they still update in near-real time)
      • The old way, you'd get 50 cents at the base level ($150 coin in / $3 per $.01 in ECs)
    • Play the same machine, denom, 15 minutes, but only do 5 spins a minute
    • Pull your card out and see how many ECs you got
    • According to what they're saying, you should still get the same number of ECs in the second round as the first
    • If you only get half as much in the second round, then it's still based on coin-in (or is now based on theo), and the "time and average bet" bit is bullshit (for machines)
     
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  15. nostresshere

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    I like you test idea. Will be trying that at a few machines later this month.. if sober enough to remember.

    I would guess they could track each type of slot and give it a different value which is related to theo.

    Mlife has for many years given different point values to different machines. No idea how many different "types" they had. Most casinos seem to just separate VP from Slots. Mlife has said they "specialty" slots were different for a few years.

    Some possible variances:
    Video Poker
    Older machines
    Mega Machines that are shared with other casinos, such as MegaBucks or those themed onces with over a million top jackpot
    Celebrity/brand/TV show themed
    Casino linked progressives
    Machine Craps, Blackjack, Roulette units

    Who knows how detailed they are doing this.
     
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    Upon a visit to MGM Springfield in May 2019, I was pleasantly surprised to see that I earned ECs (and a piddly amount of TCs, because Mlife) for my blackjack play. It worked out to be $0.01 EC per table game TC earned, plus any tier level EC bonus (10% for Pearl, 20% for Gold, 30% for Platinum, 40% for Noir).

    For machine play, each base point earned through play additionally earns $0.01 EC (plus tier bonus) -- or at least it did through three days ago. Having just been in Vegas and having played on both sides of the changing of the Mlife gaming year, I will take a closer look at my gaming journal to see how the EC earning for machine play changed. I would know if it's theo-based if there are differences between my slot play and my VP play.
     
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    In my upcoming trip report wrap up I will go over what my EC earnings are compared to what I have earned in past trips
     
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    I'll be very interested to hear how you liked NoMad. The reviews have been very good. Will be considering that for my next M Life property stay.
     
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    I stayed there in April. I enjoyed it! It's not Aria, which is my fave, but I liked the decor and I got upgraded to their small "suite". The staff was friendly and helpful, and they do a good job of making it feel like a boutique hotel, even if you're in a gigantic strip hotel building.

    You can read more in my report, plus pics: https://www.vegasmessageboard.com/forums/index.php?threads/boxofbirds-4-13–4-16-live-trip-report.161207/
     
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    What I have been able to work out so far regarding Express Comps for the current Mlife gaming year (based on play at Luxor earlier this week)...
    1. EC earning has not changed for slots -- still $0.01 per base point earned, plus the same tier-based bonuses.
    2. EC earning for VP play may have been significantly reduced. For my VP play, I calculated an earning of ECs (pre-bonus) of about $0.004 per base point. In the past, this definitely would have been the same as slots in terms of ECs per base point. Given that the card readers in Vegas are very old at some properties, I am confident that EC earning will be one fixed number for any given machine, and that it will not be based on the theo of the specific VP variant being played (like we see with BConned and V/P for tier progression, and with Cosmo for consideration of future gaming offers). We will need to gather more data points on this one.
    I have not yet played any table games this gaming year -- perhaps soon in Springfield. My hypothesis is that EC earning for table games will indeed be $0.01 per TC earned (plus tier bonuses), with TC earning being based on theo (however the pit chooses to get player ratings wrong on any given day).
     
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