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LV Poker Update 10/13

Discussion in 'The Poker Room' started by NeonTurtle14, Oct 13, 2020.

  1. NeonTurtle14

    NeonTurtle14 Hot Dogs and Buns

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    I've been in LV the past 5 weeks, back and forth between LV and home, and have been keeping tabs on what's going on with the poker rooms. A few observations now, and I'll share some war stories later.

    1. While Bally's room has reopened, I've been to it three times (3 diff days/times) and have not seen a soul there any time I've went. The sign outside of the room says POKER NOW OPEN and then there's literally no one working or playing. Not sure if there are certain days/times they are better than others. Bravo says they open at 6pm daily, but all 3 times I visited were at or after 6pm.

    2. MLife-based poker rooms which are open (Aria, Bellagio) switched over to 8-handed plexiglass sometime last week. So now every room is doing 8-handed plexiglass except Golden Nugget, which was running 5-handed with no plexiglass when I was in a few wks ago. (Side note on Nugget - when I was in there playing, the poker manager was bragging about how while the other rooms "dragged their feet" to reopen with plexiglass, Nugget was the first to be open - his words.) I've heard rumors Bally's room is plexiglass 9-handed but I've yet to see it actually open.

    3. The biggest issue with the plexiglass imo is being able to hear. Different rooms use different plexiglass configs, some make it easier/harder. Other issues with certain locations as well, but ultimately hearing is the biggest downfall. I've seen fistfights and yelling matches break out because of discrepancy between hearing RAISE or not, or discerning between ALL IN and CALL. And the dealer has no clue, nor do the other players.

    4. Not all 8-player plexiglass is created equal. Each brand/property seems to have its own plexiglass design. Some are designed better than others, and the design has to strike a balance between protection and being able to hear what's going on at the table.
    • For example, at Venetian, The plexiglass covers you on all sides, including in front of you. While it may make some feel safer, this design made me feel very claustrophobic while trying to play. I could not relax while shoved into this getup. Also, this makes it extremely difficult to hear anyone (players, dealer) esp with masks. While the other plexiglass configs are still a general pain to hear, this is by far the worst setup imo.
    • At Caesars, the 8-handed plexiglass is just clear dividers between players - nothing really in front of you. Possibly less safe (I'm not here to argue the value/safety of these things) but also way easier to hear what's going on.
    • The Wynn plexiglass is similar to Caesars except it puts a plexiglass shield up in front of the dealer and players in seats 1/8. This may be the best balance I've experienced as plexiglass / safety coverage / hearing goes.
    • Bellagio and Aria have a config similar to Venetian but not quite as claustrophobic. Still, some issues hearing what's going on.
    5. Aria has resumed its daily tournament (the 11am) as of about 3 wks ago. I've went in to play there at night a handful of times to see it still going.

    6. Wynn's room reopened 2 wks ago. I have stopped in there a couple times since. The room is very very slowly picking up. Peak time I saw three 1/3 games, one 2/5 game, a PLO game, and a handful of interest lists. At a slow time I saw zero tables running and a dark room (was told by the manager running the room the other day they've been dark 4am-10am most nights except weekends since reopening).

    7. Caesars and Wynn win the NeonTurtle award for clean chips. They do some kind of chip scrub nightly. Chips feel clean. On the flip side, Aria takes the award for least chip cleaning. Maybe this is a casino thing, not just a poker room thing, but it carries over and trickles down. I observed players at Aria just sticking their chips to their side of the plexiglass - the chips would just stick without needing to do anything. It was humorous and sad at the same time.
     
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  2. Marky147

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    Jealous.com!

    Sounds like things are slowly getting back o some sense of normalcy in the card rooms, at least. Never going to be perfect, but poker has opened up a lot quicker than I anticipated, given how little it makes the casinos.

    Hope the trips have been profitable, mate!
     
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    Chips that dirty are just plain sick and inexcusable.
    Thanks for the update!
     
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    I'd be interested to see how the Golden Nugget manages 5-handed play. If a player leaves the table for a meal, and another goes to the restroom, I imagine that the play would be halted. The remedy is to make the blinds compulsory, whether the player is at the table or not.
     
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    When I checked in to Bally’s a couple Fridays ago about 8pm, they had 4-6 full tables in action. I played for a bit at a Flamingo that Sunday night, and again there were 4-6 full tables going at about 10pm.
     
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  6. NeonTurtle14

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    They just keep playing unless/until players want to pause.
     
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    NeonTurtle14 Hot Dogs and Buns

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    Maybe it's just weekends then.... good for them if they're keeping 4-6 going strong on weekends right now.
     
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    Biggest pot of these trips for me was a hand at Aria $2/$5 NLHE. I was in the big blind with 35 offsuit (don't all the good hands start off this way?) and called a pre-flop raise to $20 after 4 others were already in the hand. 2/5 NLHE at Aria is as LAG as it gets.

    So there's $100 in the pot pre-flop and the flop gives me and up-and-down straight draw, the flop is 24Q rainbow. I check, original raiser bets $65, everyone else folds except me, because I'm a glutton for punishment.

    $230 in the pot, turn gives me the nuts and completes the rainbow (24Q6). I check, villain bets $200, I take my time in calling.

    $630 in the pot, river is a brick for me but maybe it was good for him? (24Q6J). This time I decide I'm going to lead out on the river and make it substantial, thinking I can get lots of hands to call me (AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AQ, maybe hands like AJ, QJ, or 66 44 22). I lead out for $450, villain min raises to $900. Play it cool, Turtle... I take my time in deciding to push all my chips in (about $1800 behind at this point, although villain had a little less). Villain takes 6 minutes (I watched) to make the call, and left disgusted afterwards. I never did get to see what magic he was playing. Total pot ended up being somewhere around $4100.
     
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    NeonTurtle14 Hot Dogs and Buns

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    Most heartbreaking hand, tied between two:

    #1 at $5/$10 NLHE at Bellagio... Slow playing AK, flop is AKx, end up letting the villain go runner-runner inexpensively to catch his flush with 24 suited. Big pot, crippled me in that game.

    #2 at $2/$5 NLHE at Aria... I end up in a 3-way (almost 4-way) all-in hand with AA (hero) vs JJ vs 99 pre-flop, and the flop has J and 9 on it... no more help for me and AA is third place.
     
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    NeonTurtle14 Hot Dogs and Buns

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    Biggest donk hand I shouldn't have won... $2/$5 at Caesars, with Kh Ts in my hand, I jam short-stacked on flop Ah 5h 6c and get 3 callers. Board goes runner-runner hearts to give hero nut flush. I saw 2 of the other 3 hands for side-pot pay-out, one player had AA and one had Ax Qh.


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    NeonTurtle14 Hot Dogs and Buns

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    Some softcore chip porn from the trips to get you in the mood....
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    NeonTurtle14 Hot Dogs and Buns

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    Couple other random hands I found in my photos. Won the flush hand, lost the JJ vs AK hand.
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    NeonTurtle14 Hot Dogs and Buns

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    This is what Bally's has looked like all 3 times I stopped in
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    A little word of warning, in case they haven't been fixed yet. The Caesar's plexiglass divider mounting brackets are very sharp. I bumped my knee on one and it sliced me pretty good. It hurt, but I didn't realize until a little later I had blood running down my leg. I went and told the Poker Room staff and they immediately gave me a big bandaid and a wad of napkins. I explained what happened and they may want to look into it and they admitted it has been an issue. They even said that is why they have the large bandaids ready to hand out. I was wearing shorts. Jeans would have prevented it.
     
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    Blows my mind. They pay for all these safety protocols, dividers, extra cleaning etc. why not also pay for a chip washer and someone to run that thing like 24/7.
     
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    NittyOne High-Roller

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    Haha wow! Maybe put in a maintenance request to put rubber cover or new screws or something. Wow

    “Hey yeah we know, that’s why we got these bandaids.”
     
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    Nice chip porn Turtle. Interesting how $2/$5 at Aria is full of LAGS.


    Plexiglas, short handed games seem terrible. Poker is a big part of my Vegas trips. If I can’t play under normal conditions I won’t be back in Vegas until all this is over. Holding out some hope that’s next summer.
     
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    I was there Oct. 15-18, stayed at Venetian. Room was nearly always packed, but they did have a Deepstack event going on.
    Hung with the family & played a ton of video poker Th/F; by Sat I needed something different.
    Caesars & Flamingo were the closest with tourneys & Flamingo was out as I refuse to play 15 min. blinds.

    2PM Caesars had 16 when I sat down about 2:05. $150 for 15K with option for $50 add-on at break (which I took).
    I have found CP play to be fairly aggressive in the past, and it was much calmer this time.
    Local player sat down about 30 min. in & proceeded to watch several players just donk off their stacks to him. They hadn't been playing all that bad, it was wild. He was a quiet player, but dealers called him by name. He would make a sizable bet after the flop, they would jam with 2nd pair or high card & he would snap call with top pair/strong kicker, 2 pair, set. He did suck out on 1 guy, but I would have played it the same as him, no donkey move.
    I ended up taking 3rd--local guy raises w/ pocket 3s preflop, I shove with 10s. Flop comes 3-4-5. Ugh.
    But $900 not a bad pull for 3rd.

    BUT it felt good to get back in the saddle; my 5 handed SNG at SPoint in JUne was such a head shaker; I needed this!
     
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