Does anybody know when the Lyft bar started checking ID’s in order to get in? I was just there from the 19th-23rd of October and I can’t remember exactly what day it was (maybe Sunday the 20th) and my dad wanted to just go into the bar to get a drink and play some video poker. My dad is 85 years old. In any event, my dad just started to walk in like normal but was stopped by a very large bouncer (I even saw the guy myself later on) and he put his hand up and asked him “Where do you think you’re going?” My dad just said that he was going into the bar. The bouncer then told him to show him his ID. My dad was incredulous. First of all he said that he didn’t have his ID with him because he had gone upstairs earlier and changed clothes and forgotten to bring it back with him. The bouncer said it’s NV state law that anybody entering a bar, lounge or club has to show ID. My dad was like This is Las Vegas. Pretty much the entire city is a bar and he reiterated the fact that he’s 85 years old. Also I kind of checked this out stealthily throughout the night and the bouncer definitely did ID a number of people trying to get into the Lyft bar but others he just let breeze right on through. Nobody had wristbands or stamps on their hands or anything. Finally I checked out the Lyft bar again the next night and the bouncer dude wasn’t there at all. So what was the deal? If there was a special show going on or something that night in the Lyft bar then fine go ahead and ID people, even though I think it’s stupid to ID an 85 year old man, but whatever. But back to my question has anybody seen a bouncer at the Lyft bar before? I’ve been to the Aria many times and even though I never actually go into the Lyft bar I don’t recall ever seeing bouncers there. Am I wrong about that?
The only bouncers I've observed or interacted with on the Aria floor are at Alibi in the evenings. I've *never* been carded going into Lift. The only reason I could see for doing now would be if they were having a problem with too many pros camping out in there.
Honestly, yes, ridiculous. But it is amazing to me that someone would walk around in public without their ID. I would borderline have a panic attack if I didn't have it on my person. I have been to Vegas twice in the past two years with people whom I knew who left their ID in their room. Bottles the mind.
I hate to think I live in a society where I must always have my papers! I hate those policies that are just set up to be dummy proof. The other day I got ID for a pack of cigarettes lol And also, I don’t like when they scan your ID to invasive although that’s probably me and my tinfoil hat the man gives a sh**what I do! But an 85-year-old man getting carded walking into a bar that is ridiculous.
I experienced that last year late on a weekend night. I asked my host about it. He said it was an attempt to keep hookers out, but they card and scan IDs of everyone so as to not look like they are profiling.
Right. I know there are bouncers at Alibi and I can understand that since a younger crowd goes to that place. That’s not a place that a guy in his 80’s is going to go to. The thing is I don’t buy the bouncers bogus excuse about NV state law saying everybody who goes into a bar, club or lounge needs to be carded. I mean on that very same trip I went into the high limit lounge. There’s a bar in there. I didn’t get a drink or even play but I wasn’t ID’d. And actually at one point when the bouncer maybe wasn’t even around I went into the Lift bar, ordered a drink and paid for it in cash (not even a room charge) just as an experiment. I didn’t get ID’d. I can think of so many other examples. I’m 44 years old and have been going to Vegas since I was a little kid but once I was actually old enough to drink and gamble I don’t ever recall ever being ID’d. Oh by the way I forgot you mentioned “pros”. My dad really seemed convinced that at the time there were about a dozen pros in there when he was trying to get in. That was another issue he had with the bouncer. He told him something like “So you’re not going to let an “85 year old guy in because he doesn’t have his ID but there are a dozen pros (he didn’t use that term) at the bar right now, which is illegal in Clark County?” That’s when he came up with his NV state law ID excuse. All he had to do was say we’re having a special event in here tonight and it’s my job to ID everybody. I’m sorry.
It comes down to if you're going to card anyone, you have to card everyone...or you open yourself up to a discrimination lawsuit; and MGM has a lot of money behind it. What boggles my mind is that they were letting others in without carding them. Perhaps the bouncer saw your dad as an 'undesirable' and perhaps your dad should see the bouncer as a 'lawsuit'.
Most discrimination is legal. In fact, when it comes to alcohol consumption laws, the laws are specifically written to discriminate on the basis of age. The situation sucks for the OPs father. I mean, he would have to walk back to his room and get his ID. r walk to any of the many other bars a couple minutes away that likely weren't checking ID at that moment. But let's not get carried away here. Nobody was breaking any laws by asking someone to produce an ID to enter a bar
If they've had trouble lately with underage drinking, ruckus, whatever...IDing everyone is the easiest way to deal with that
That was actually a big part of it. Ok fine he’s old. No real need to ID him but the bouncer asked for his ID anyway. One could say that it wouldn’t have been the end of the world to just go back up to his room and get his ID. It wouldn’t have taken very long and he should have had his ID anyway but like smmerian said, it was crazy that the bouncer was letting some people in without ID’ing them while ID’ing others. I don’t know what an “undesirable” might look like but he’s just your typical old man. He’s actually in good shape for 85. He wasn’t drunk. Like I said earlier, I watched this myself and the guy was ID’ing numerous different people throughout the night but also at the same time letting others just walk right in. There was no way he could remember everybody he had ID’d once, then left the Lift Bar and then wanted to come back in so these had to have been people he just flat out didn’t ID.
Many people can remember. Circa established an over 21 policy, and instead of dealing with all the soapbox protesters at the door, everyone shows an ID. No exceptions. I'm sure we are all exasperated about waiting in line, but it is what it is. Maybe that door bouncer is new, maybe he is over asking, but he is in the right to ask. My daughter is mid 30's, looks 19. We walked thru a casino, I stopped to play blackjack, she gets asked for ID and produced it before the question was finished. No big deal.
I am pretty sure the contractor gets paid per head on the entrance. There is no way you should ID pops. Pops gonna play
Seriously with all due respect, your daughter looks 19. My father is 85 and looks like it. He’s bald and shuffles around like an old guy and takes 5 naps per day.
It’s certainly not my intention to get into an argument. This whole thing is in the past anyway so it doesn’t even matter. It was just such an odd occurrence is all.
Fair enough and I do understand what your father looks like. I used the Circa example of how a policy is set.
It’s probably because you guys don’t need ID on you all the time by law (don’t know, guessing) in the U.S., but back home if you go out without you’re due hefty fine if the police checks it, which they sometimes do random (traffic checks,…) I don’t even go to the bathroom from my bed without ID on me, so the speak
Being VERY honest here, and maybe I shouldn’t be, but: I don’t see any problem being asked for or showing ID… Their house, their rules. If I don’t like it I can leave.
It is a private business. They have the right to make their own rules and refuse service to anyone they want as long as it’s not for an illegal reason. Also I forget who said it but, even taking out the seemingly ludicrous idea of carding an 85 year old, he really should have had his ID on him. Like I mentioned before, it probably would have taken less than 5 minutes to go back up to his room, get it and come back down. There are numerous reasons to always have your ID with you. One being just as simple as if you happen to lose your players card and need a replacement. The only way they’ll give you a new one is if you give them your ID.
Too bad, you could say, that there wasn’t any leniency given by that bouncer - there’s no way you’re mistaking 85 for 21…
The closest thing we have in the US is some version of Stop & Identify laws in 27 states. I’m not going to go into all the variations between the states because they are plentiful. In NV, when stopped in public (not driving or suspected of committing a crime) all that needs to be given to a police officer is a person’s full name, no ID required.