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Video Poker JOB Strategy for 8/6 Bonus Deluxe?

Discussion in 'Video Poker' started by VegasLover8, May 19, 2017.

  1. VegasLover8

    VegasLover8 Low-Roller

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    I am a JOB and Bonus VP player. I know it has been mentioned here that JOB strategy works with Bonus.

    I read somewhere else that JOB strategy for Bonus Deluxe is also OK. But if I recall correctly, they were talking about 9/6 Bonus Deluxe.

    Is it acceptable if it's 8/6 Bonus Deluxe?
     
  2. dex844

    dex844 Tourist

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    Tringlomane posted the answer in another thread. If you play 8/6 Bonus Deluxe using 9/6 JOB strategy, you lose 0.034%. So instead of the 98.49% optimal return, your EV drops to 98.46%. I would consider the difference not very significant.

    I think he used Frugal Video Poker software for the calculations. I need to figure out how to do that.
     
  3. dex844

    dex844 Tourist

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  4. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Yeah, unfortunately the software I downloaded for that won't work as the Wolf VP website disappeared (I think it looks for an ad splash there). I think I might try to redownload another copy on a 3rd party site if I need it again.

    The only basic strategy difference between 9/6 and 8/6 Bonus Deluxe, @VegasLover8, is that QJT9 becomes better than a low pair in 8/6.

    And 9/6 JoB strategy is very good for either 9/6 or 8/6 Bonus Deluxe. But if you want to slightly improve on the JoB strategy for bonus deluxe you should:

    Hold straight draws like DDB:
    Inside Straight Draw w/0 high cards > garbage
    Inside Straight Draw w/2 high cards > 2 offsuit high cards

    And (H=high card)
    High Pair > 3 to a Royal that is NOT AHT suited > 4 to a flush > 3 to a Royal AHT suited.

    These fairly easy changes will bring you to very near optimal.
     
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  5. VegasLover8

    VegasLover8 Low-Roller

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    Thanks for the replies. Will be trying bonus deluxe on next trip.

    According to vpfree, The d has 8/6 (where we currently plan on staying).

    The plaza has 9/6 according to vpfree.
     
  6. dex844

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    You'll probably find some 8/6 games that aren't listed on vpfree2.

    It's working now for me, although it required a few steps. The Wolf splash goes away when I click the X in the upper-right corner.

    I used the Wayback Machine at archive.org to download the Frugal VP software from a 2016 cache of the wolfvideopoker dot com web site. Then with the software running, I chose Bonus Poker Deluxe as my machine (you may need to click to display all machines). Under StrategyCharts/Tweak, I chose "Inherit" and selected Jacks 9/6. Then there's an "Analyze" button, which confirmed the numbers you reported.

    bonus deluxe job strat analysis.png

    One other thing I noticed, if you customize a payoff table, you have to run "Analyze" to enable the StrategyCharts menu.
     
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  7. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Yes, the D does have 8/6 Bonus Deluxe (98.49%) at the long bar, it also has 7/5 ACE$ Bonus (98.25%) if you want to play a Bonus Poker game at the long bar. Avoid Bonus at Long Bar as bonus is garbage 10/8/5/3/1/1 (94.18%). But if you're a quarter player, 8/5 Bonus with the 3 way progressive at Vue Bar upstairs is even a better choice. After the progressives, the game is positive a majority of the time. And on a recent TR, I saw the Vue Bar had Space Dust Double IPA and comped it. It's a very good beer if you like IPAs, imo. ;)
     
  8. DDB

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    As of my February trip, the Plaza has plenty of 9/6 BDLX at .25/.50/$1 denomination.

    I played some and got totally whacked.
     
  9. VegasLover8

    VegasLover8 Low-Roller

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    Yes my plan is to run/earn as much as much as I can on the $5 FP for every 50pts ACG coupon 1 day and the LVA MRB the next day at the Vue bar. Then play the free play earned on the Bonus Deluxe at the Long bar.

    I do enjoy my craft beers, but I lean towards the malty stuff. I love my Belgians - especially quads and dubbels. But I have been slowly embracing IPAs. So I will definitely try the Space Dust (though it is a double IPA) if they still are serving them when I go at the end of September.
     
  10. wanker751

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    Same at GG, that Bonus game duped me once when I was there, it is a very sneaky evil pay table. More evil than the X/X/4 Bonus....