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I have hear many of you refer about "Home Casino comps"

Discussion in 'Comps' started by Mattwall, Jan 15, 2017.

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  1. Mattwall

    Mattwall Tourist

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    Can someone explain what this means, please?

    I have an offer from NYNY for 2 nights $75FP.

    If I walk around and gamble at other MGM properties are you saying the play does not all go to Mlife that I have to gamble only at NYNY for future comps?
     
  2. Scottndindy

    Scottndindy High-Roller

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    Mlife properties issue 2 kinds of offers. The first is a corporate offer. This generally offers comps available at all Mlife properties. The 2nd is a property specific comp. If the offer above is only good at NYNY it is a property specific one. Play from all mlife casinos is tabulated and combined but individual properties are more inclined to give offers to those who play at their casino.
     
  3. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    Sometimes when folks mention "home casino comps" - they are talking about the casino near where they live and the comps they get there. We used to live Tunica and they were our "home casinos".

    Without knowing in what context you are mentioning, it is hard to answer.
     
  4. eaglejohn

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    On Boyds, your home casino is where you first signed up for BConnected. Can change with host
     
  5. Mattwall

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    I mean in Vegas corporate vs property specific comps. I have an offer via NYNY for 2 nights and 75$ fp. I have a corporate offer for the same.

    I have two trips coming up one solo and a group of 4. The 4 of us like NYNY but as a solo trip I was thinking about something different, maybe Lux. But I want to still get offers from NYNY so I don't know if my solo trip at Lux will change NYNY offers in the future.
     
  6. DaiLun

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    mLife is a little different (than CET) in that you need to play at a specific property to get "better than corporate" offers from them.

    As an example, I am currently showing better than corporate offers from MGM Grand and Mirage for mLife. In 2017, I am shifting my play ffom Mirage to Bellagio in hopes of getting better offers from Bellagio.

    It also depends on where you concentrate your play. Will one visit to Luxor change your NYNY offers, not likely.

    For CET, when I refer to local casinos, it means the casinos that are geographically closest to me. In my case, Reno/Tahoe.

    Hope that helps.
     
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  7. Bo333

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    MGM casinos are each their own P&L center. So they compete against each other for your business. So each MGM property makes their own offers. Corporate MGM (MLife) will also make offers based on your play at all their casinos since the profits ultimately end up there. This is the reason you'll need hosts at each MGM property.
     
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  8. Geogran

    Geogran Whooo. Whooo.

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    @Mattwall - as you and others noted, mlife has corporate and property specific offers. Since you have both, based on the fact you want to keep your better (usually property specific) offers coming in for NYNY, I'd use your Corporate offer for Luxor for your solo where you plan to play at multiple properties. Save your property specific offer for NYNY where you might concentrate your play more and have a better chance for back end comps depending on play.

    Even though your play at any mlife property will accrue tier credits and will be used for corporate offers, if you dilute your play across too many properties, it will affect future property specific offers resulting in smaller comps - it might not affect it by much for just one trip; they may also look at history. Each property evaluates your play at that property during your stay in consideration of back end comps and future offers for that specific property.

    So say, for example, your total coin in overall is a large amount but spread across four properties and say you even earned gold tier status through your total play. The property where you are staying is only going to evaluate your actual play at that property in regards to potential back end comps and future property specific offers - regardless of tier status. Also, it takes considerably more play/coin in at higher end hotels like Aria and Bellagio to get an offer similar to what you will get at NYNY or Luxor for that same play. (That is my opinion based on my experience and I will stand corrected if others have better more specific information). I am Platinum at mlife and my offers at Mirage and Mandalay Bay are a little better than my Aria and Bellagio offers. I have even better offers of FP and RC at NYNY, Luxor, Excal - places I have not yet stayed at...

    Hope this doesn't muddy the waters :eek:
     
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  9. Mattwall

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    @Geogran - Since I really don't care too much about a specific MGM property I receive offers from, I will just casino hop while paying extra financial attention to MGM casinos.

    Good call on the using solo trip for the corporate offer.
     
  10. Chuck2009x

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    I hear "home casino" as an "official" term (ie. not just a player referring to the place he plays most) by Boyd and CET players. At Boyd it seems to have more significant meaning than CET although I don't really have a good handle on what the significance is at either.

    MLife, I don't think there's anything like that. From what I've seen, if you give any play to a particular property (or at least over a certain amount, or a certain percentage threshold of all your MLife play), you'll end up getting property-specific offers from them.
     
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    I agree with most of what you said, but I'm not sure about the effect of spreading play at different MLife properties when you're staying on a property-specific offer. As far as back-end comps, I don't think there's much doubt

    But let's say you stay at Aria for 3 nights on a property-specific offer. And you play one night at Aria, one night at MGM Grand and one night at MB, playing your normal level. So your ADT at Aria specifically for the trip is only 1/3 of what it could be. Should you expect your next Aria-specific offer to suck? I wouldn't really, but I've also never done that. Aria can still see your overall ADT is OK. My instinct says there would be some effect, but not too drastic. So I also agree if you have a Corporate offer and a property offer that are identical and you want to casino hop, use the Corporate offer.
     
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  12. Geogran

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    Your instinct is probably right Chuck as to effects of future property specific offers and overall ADT; for me that is a gray area. I sometimes see my mlife offers go up or down even though play hasn't changed. On the other hand, we haven't stayed at Bellagio in past 2 years (still play there a little each trip) and property specific offers haven't gone down which tracks with what you said.

    I know for sure it affects my back end comps as it happened to me a couple of times when my host was on vacation and the backup host told me she couldn't do much after reviewing my play because a lot of my play was at a different casino - which was true.
     
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    It's been a long time since I've been Diamond but my renewal bonus used to be issued at my home casino which was the casino that got the most of my play over a six month period. Back when it was Harrah's Joliet and East Chicago, there were certain promotions that would only be offered by my home casino so I would focus my play at one over the other if I thought one casino would give better gifts or cash than the other.
     
  14. FYMYAWF

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    Yeah in the MGM world "home casino" is just the one you tend to stay/play most at. It can be a bit of a self-fulfilling thing. I stayed at NYNY a couple times in a row a few years back, so then either Mlife's algorithms slotted me in there for offers or they just assumed that's the ONLY place I wanted to stay, because nearly all my FP/RC offers would be for NYNY. I'm just getting going on CET so I don't know if it'll work that way for them too. So far I'm seeing non-specific multiple resort offers with them.
     
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