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Help parse this CET mattress offer

Discussion in 'Comps' started by EwoksEwoksEwoks, Feb 18, 2020.

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  1. Chuck2009x

    Chuck2009x VIP Whale

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    Yes, that's how it's written.
    • They're pricing the Queen mattress at $500 freeplay
    • They're pricing the King mattress at $750 freeplay
    • They're pricing the Bean Bag at $250 in freeplay

    On the 3rd offer you can get:
    • Mattress & Bean Bag, or
    • $750 and Bean Bag, or
    • Mattress and $250, or
    • $1,000

    For the first 3 offers, they're pricing every $250 worth of freeplay at 2,000 TCs ($10,000 coin in on slots). That's a 2.5% rebate if you take the freeplay.

    For the last offer, they're pricing $3,000 in freeplay at 10,000 TCs ($50,000 coin in on slots), that's a 6% rebate.

    The last offer is easily the best if you have the bank and the time.
     
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  2. EwoksEwoksEwoks

    EwoksEwoksEwoks Low-Roller

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    Return is 98.4498% if you include the royal, 96.46% if you exclude the royal.

    If you are playing at the $1 level to hit $100k coin in, you’re playing 20k hands. This will give you roughly a 50% chance of making a royal. So we can average out the non royal and royal included returns to arrive at an estimated return for exactly 20k hands. That’s 97.4549% or around $2,545 in losses on $100k coin in.

    However, you really have to love VP (and especially JoB) to grind out 20k hands over 2.5 days. Thats not for me.
     
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  3. JulianC

    JulianC Amateur

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    One could also 10-play at quarters for a total of 4000 base hands. At a rate of 600 base hands dealt per hour, that should take around 13-14 hours in total. CET specifically looks at time on device as a player rating metric, and they like to see it be a minimum of 4 hours per gaming day. Thus, as long as you comfortably have a bankroll of $4k for the run over 2-3 days (variance and royal/quad droughts can be rough on multi-play), it can be done. Along the way -- welcome to Diamond Plus.
     
  4. Vegasbaby99

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    Assuming perfect play. However JOB is entirely dependent on the Royal. If you don’t get a Royal you are looking at a 96 percent return on 9/5.

    With no Royal your expected loss on 100k coin in is $4000. The 10k tier credit offer is the best offer IMO
     
  5. Vegasbaby99

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    I would strongly advise against the multi hand strategy. It’s just way too volatile. Plus there is a different strategy required for multi hand.

    Better off playing 20000 hands of $1 denom
     
  6. HardEight44

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    Spoke to my host today and she said this offer has confused the entire host team in Vegas. She thinks that the 4000 tier play up ($500 for me) is in additional to the original $500 base benefit so I would not get $1000 total. however she is trying to confirm.
     
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  7. HardEight44

    HardEight44 Low-Roller

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    I just heard back from my host.

    You do in fact get the base amount PLUS the play up amount. This is a very good offer!

    your initial offer is $500 in free play and there are 4 levels of play up you can choose to play up to and get an extra free play amount. For example, if you earned 4,000 tier for the trip, your free play will be $1,000 ($500+$500). Very good offer. Please let me know if you have any questions.



    Level 1 4,000 Tier Credits $500

    Level 2 6,000 Tier Credits $750

    Level 3 8,000 Tier Credits $750 + $250

    Level 4 10,000 Tier Credit $3,000
     
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  8. DoctorD

    DoctorD Low-Roller

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    $3500 is an insane amount of free play.

    For accumulating tier credits, this is a better deal than the 5x tier credits in April IMO.
    The April deal still has negative expectations on tier credits you earn.

    if I could get there I would. It’s the best offer I have seen from CET.

    D
     
  9. zignerlv

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    On the contrary! There is no change to VP strategy when playing multi hand.
     
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  10. Vegasbaby99

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    Well I’ve literally never won anything playing multi hand. Lost several times the amount I spend on single hand even if the total bet is the same. It spreads out the variance but you really must be dealt hands on multi hand to win anything. It’s more like a slot machine in that regard.
     
  11. zignerlv

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    Anyones personal experiences do not change or impact the expected value of a VP machine. "I never win at that game" means literally nothing as far as determining or validating the expected value of a game. 9/6 jacks or better played with correct strategy, pays 99.54 on a single pay as well as on a 10 play. Variance is different for sure, but not the strategy, nor the return.
     
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  12. tringlomane

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    Yes, @Init2winit is correct @DoctorD. It's a good promo if you get the $3k FP for 10k TC offer. Of course there are definitely big swings involved. Playing 100 play 9/5 JoB quarters in the PHo HL room for as few lines as you can stand per spin will lower your the variance the most. You can play any number of lines on that machine and still bet 5 per line.
     
  13. DaiLun

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    . . . and 10,000 RAW tier Credits is an awful lot to earn. Remember that bonus credits DO NOT count!!!! As a slot player, I would budget a $10,000 loss.
     
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  14. oghuman

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    I play lots multi-play. Its strategy is the same as one hand. Yes, if you have a bad streak you can lose quite a bit in a run of few hands. Conversely on a good streak you can win quite a bit. If you look at the Video Poker posts you can see plenty of great hands-on multi-play, a few of them are mine.
     
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  15. EwoksEwoksEwoks

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    Is this machine new? I don't remember seeing a 100 play 9/5 game at Planet Hollywood before. I have played the 9/5 DSTP but based on vpfree2.com they have moved this machine to $25/pt which is quite pathetic!
     
  16. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    VPFree2 says one 100 play still has it in HL.

    I've never personally verified though.

    https://www.vpfree2.com/casino/planet-hollywood-resort-casino-las-vegas
     
  17. DoctorD

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  18. jgates8

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    What is the date range on this offer?
     
  19. subafrk

    subafrk Longing to be sipping a Scotch at the Cromwell...

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    Mine was 3/26-3/30
     
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  20. jgates8

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    Thank you!
     
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