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Help me categorize 3-5 strip hotels for young gamblers, middle age and the over 50 crowd

Discussion in 'LV Strip Hotels' started by shokhead, Apr 5, 2019.

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  1. Geogran

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    Not sure I can give a helpful answer based on my observations.

    Time of day often points to one age group vs another in any given casino.
    Sitting in any casino between 1am and 5am and it skews young by huge margins
    Early morning trends towards the over 50 gang and conference attendees
    Mid day to evening is a well blended mix of all age groups

    I’m way way over 50 and this is where I mostly hang out, for what it’s worth:
    Cosmo
    Mirage
    V/P
    Wynn
    Bellagio
    Paris
    Aria
     
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    To those complaining about the topic, I don't think that anyone answering (or asking) is implying that these are hard fast rules to go by. Obviously not every person in Aria is of the same age bracket, but that doesn't mean that casinos don't tend to skew towards certain demographics.

    As someone already mentioned, a lot of hotel choices for visitors tend to be based on income levels as well (again in general obviously exceptions to every rule). MOST people who stay at Harrah's aren't doing so because they prefer Harrah's to Aria/Wynn/Caesars/Bellagio/Venetian but because it better aligns with their budget and discretionary income. Again that's MOST people, I personally know some exceptions to that exact statement, but for the most part, someone is choosing the 5 star joint over the 2.5 star spot. The older you get, typically the more money you make/save and the more money you have to spend in Vegas, so a lot of the nicer properties are going to attract older crowds than say, Flamingo where the frat boys will pack 5 to a room at $49/night.

    The other factors that come into play are what certain age groups are typically looking for in their Vegas trips. Those in their 20s are mostly looking to party and have a rowdy time, maybe hit the clubs and are looking for a party pool scene and a food court to grab something to build a nice base on for cheap. Those groups are going to typically stay at properties that provide those environments and amenities, provided it fits their budget. This group also tends to spend little time in the room and uses it more as a crash pad.

    Those in their 50s are probably more likely to be looking for comfortable accommodations, shows, some finer dining options, and a more subdued pool scene. They don't want to be rubbing up against others in the pool while shouting to their SO who is two feet away so they can talk, nor do they want a burger from Johnny Rockets for dinner, and they'd rather pay $100/night to stay at Bellagio than spend half that to stay at Flamingo.

    Obviously Vegas is a mish mash of those from all walks but to pretend like you're not much more likely to find the twenty something party crowd at Flamingo or Planet Hollywood than at Bellagio or Mandalay Bay (and vice versa) is a bit silly.
     
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    As for my list I'd probably go something like this:

    21-35 Planet Hollywood, Flamingo, Linq, NYNY
    36-50 Mirage, MB, V/P Aria, MGM
    51+ Wynn, Bellagio, Caesars, Paris

    There are some other weird ones. Harrah's seems to be either the young party crowd looking for a cheap crash pad or the 60+ crowd, it seems like during the week it's mostly older, weekends you get the partiers coming in. Wynn's guests probably skews to the 40 and up (typically much further up) crowd, but with the club scene there, walking around at 2:00AM it will be the 20 year olds.
     
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    I can only speak from my own experience. I've been going to Vegas at least twice per year since 1996 (Age early 20s).

    When I was:
    21-35 - NYNY, TI, IP, Luxor, PH, MGM
    36-50 - MGM, Mirage, Mandalay, Bellagio, Aria
    51+ - Not there yet.

    Speaking for myself, as I've aged and have more disposable income, I've gravitated to the newer and nicer properties, but I also tend to only stay where my rooms are comped.
     
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    How about:
    -- Wealthy
    -- Middle class
    -- California trailer park
     
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    Too many factors to go into this lol.
    But most of those around my age like Linq, Cosmopolitan, PH, Wynn.
    Either because it's affordable and a good party place (Linq & PH for example), or because it's "chic" (Cosmopolitan), or because of the club (Wynn).
     
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    Here is a link to the latest annual demographic study commissioned by the Las Vegas Convention and Visitor's Authority. It is a generational survey that shows what age group is most likely to visit, how much money each group spends, how much money each group makes and dozens of other little known facts. You can bet each strip hotel has similar statistics for their visitors. .

    https://assets.simpleviewcms.com/simpleview/image/upload/v1/clients/lasvegas/2017_LV_VPS_Generational_b0101691-076b-4310-a11e-2efb1763b90a.pdf
     
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    I like this list... the Medicare (65+) crowd, of course, is hold up downtown somewhere.
     
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    I'm 30 and I gamble everywhere, haha. I don't like downtown because that's not my scene, but for the Strip I prefer the Cosmo (I can find quiet areas, food and drinks are fantastic), Treasure Island for the old school slots, Linq or Flamingo if you're looking for a party, and...that's all I can think of. Paris, Harrah's and Bally's seem kind of calmer to me, but I'm sure that depends on the day and events going on.
     
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    Downtown.. for all of the above. Nice thing is, if they dont like one, walk the 1000 feet to the next :)
     
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    Now that's some information that answers a lot of questions.
     
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    21 - 35 Cosmo. Hands down.
     
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    I think socio-economic grouping is more accurate in picking a casino's demographic. I like the V/P, Wynn and Bellagio. I would stay and gamble at the V/P, Wynn and Bellagio. But I'm retired and if I want my money to last for another 30-40 years I can only go and look at them.
    That being said, I like all of the other Strip casinos. I tend not to play in PH or O'Shea's because I play craps and it's so loud in them that you have to yell to place your bets with the dealers (and they still ask you to repeat yourself). My comps are transferable back home with CZR corp so I tend to frequent their other casinos in LV. I'm a Francophile so the atmosphere in Paris just makes me melt (check my avatar).
     
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    So I am 30 and play at Cromwell and PH almost exclusively (and almost exclusively BJ and Craps) with a usual $5k odd roll for a 3 day trip. I usually stay at Caesars because of the great pool although have stayed at PH and Flamingo also.

    I just wouldnt venture into Bellagio to do some serious gambling because it is just a bit stuffy, feel the same at Wynn even thought the property is gorgeous. Cosmo I love for food and bars but the gaming doesnt suit me at all, same for Aria. Maybe i need to branch out a bit on my next trip if anyone has any serious recommendations why, but i just feel at home in the slightly younger feeling casinos...

    Anyway, just my 2c, YMMV!
     
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    21-35 - PH, Linq, NYNY Flamingo, Cosmo
    36-50 - Mirage, NYNY, Mandalay, Ceasers, Aria, Bellagio
    50+ - Wynn, Flamingo, Ceasers, Aria, V/P, Bellagio, Cosmo

    All ages - Luxor, MGM

    I've stayed at NYNY, flamingo, ph, cosmo, aria, mandalay, aria. I'm 34.

    Some of the age groups overlap IMO. Also some i'd say are split between all ages unless its 2am or 9am in the morning.

    Haven't spent enough time at Park MGM or harrahs to have a good anser.
     
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    How do the young people afford the cosmo? No way they gamble enough for comps. I'm assuming they're paying the full retail rate... It seems to be the only 5 star that they have gravitated to. I'm sure the reputation of being a young person's property helps itself
     
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    Not sure what you consider young but tech pays very well out of college. I’m 32 (techie) and stay comped, but I put in a lot of time at the tables.
     
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    Like others have said, I don’t think any place stands out as being exclusively 20/30s, 40/50s, 60/70s, etc. Based on the main casino floor during the peak gambling, as that is the heartbeat of each property IMO, I’d probably classify them in the following way:

    Lively & Loud
    Most likely to experience loud music, see copious amounts of alcohol consumption & hear the louder voices that accompany it
    Budget: Linq, Flamingo
    Mid Tier: Planet Hollywood
    High End: Cosmo

    Quiet & Subdued
    This is quiet/subdued strictly by Vegas standards. Music isn’t typically banging and there isn’t that audible buzz in the air.
    Budget: TI, Tropicana, Ballys
    Mid Tier: Mandalay Bay, Paris
    High End: VP

    Somewhere In The Middle
    Budget: Harrahs, Luxor, Excal
    Mid Tier: Mirage, MGM, Caesars, Cromwell
    High End: Aria, Wynncore

    Some places I’ve only been to infrequently & briefly so that could be way off. Again, it’s all based on the vibe I get during peak gambling times and relative to the strip as a whole- no floor is wild at 8a, and no floor is dead at 11p, either.
     
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    I'm my book, what makes Vegas special is that it let's ALL of us feel/live like teenagers, whether we at 20 or 90!

    Even with that, yes, hotels definitely attract/create older/younger scenes, but a lot has to do with less cash flow when younger for many of us. :whistle:

    Here goes though, based on crowds, vibes I've seen in Vegas. It does NOT mean if you're younger/older you won't like it, it just means I've see a lot of an age group at XYZ.

    Also, I am only using hotels I've spent a little time at, so there are lots of additional great contenders I don't mention. (And I'm heavy mlife on experience, so less CET feedback)

    Young:

    1. Linq tops it, cheap, fun, and quirky rooms geared towards younger.
    2. PH another young hit, but also works well for everyone. Definitely a party spot, but also a gray, option for middle aged too! Rooms are just a little too trendy/young/spartan for me, so I bumped into "youth" category. Again though, good for multiple agre groups.
    3. Treasure Island. Affordable rooms, close to Carnival Court, and always see younger people in there. Good for older too, but also seems to be a good option for younger/on a budget. Honestly I don't know, what their target age group is, but heh.
    4. MGM. Great pool. Night life. Not too expensive.
    5. Cromwell: Fun vibe, great location, Drais nightclub. But pricey. Straddles middle aged (for cost) with youthful vibe. Put in young due to vibe, but also fits middle aged for cost and solid (but small) rooms.

    Middle-aged (aka ME!) : OK, we get older but are still young enough to feel cool/hot/adventurous on a good day. We might have some wear on our tires, but our car, and our bankroll, might be upgraded slightly. We want fun, but not grimy, dive-bar, "seeing people puking on their shoes" fun. And loud partying 24/7 in a room is no longer a plus for us when we look at hotel "neighbors". This is my list:

    1. Aria. Hot. Hip. Fun. Luxurious. OK, it actually fits in YOUNG category for coolness, but the rooms prices and food options are a little steep for most 20 year olds (or I was just a loser in my 20's! Heck, if I didn't get comps, I wouldn't pay rack rate now, even though middle aged!)
    2. Cosmo. Even MORE fun than Aria, amazing food options, party spot but not pukey spot. Somehow Cosmo blends the coolness of youth with the aplomb and class of a top-end resort. It's not cheap though, definitely "middle aged bankroll" unless you're packing people into a room like sardines.
    3. Venetian/Palazzo. Beautiful, luxurious, expensive, but a little cold and seems less "fun" . Absolutely gorgeous hotel with killer rooms, but it always has a stuffy vibe to me. This straddles middle-aged and next tier for me.
    4. Paris. Fun. Hopping, affordable for middle aged, maybe a hair above for super young. Straddles young and middle aged in my book.
    5. Mandalay Bay: Great rooms, great prices for the type of room, really fun vibe with RiRa and House of Blues. Straddles young and middle aged, but at the upper end of mlife, so put in Middle aged. One of THE best values on the strip in my book, if you want beautiful rooms but don't want to pay, an, arm and a leg.
    6. Bellagio: Great location, solid rooms, consistently good customer service. Seems to fit all levels (nightclub for younger people) but cost pushes it more to middle-aged and above.
    7. Mirage. Beautiful property, great pool. Appeals to many of us that like an iconic property. Affordable prices yet still has many things that appeal to younger crowds too. Straddles youth and middle age in my book.

    This, is just my swing at this, and it's a fun post. Vegas' magic is that it MAKES everyone feel young (except in the morning!), but this is my attempt at youthful/mature hotels... hotels that I have enough time/experiences with to comment on.
     
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