Gansevoort Las Vegas replacing Bills

Gansevoort sounds like the name of something from Lord of the Rings.

 

Very true, Vegas constantly has to reinvent itself. However, selling a $30 bottle of booze for $600 is what is working right now. It must be an insanely profitable business model and they will milk it for all it is worth. When the target audience for this is no longer interested--it will be time for another reinvention.

 

I agree that not everyone will be DINK's, but my point is that while some will cut back on some things, Vegas is typically a "special vacation," especially considering that, as mentioned, gambling has become so prevalent across the US, so when people go to LV, they want "special"
They may not "party like a rockstar" any longer, but I doubt they're going to go from acquiring a taste of Cosmo, Bellagio, Wynn, Aria, Nobu and then go down to El Cortez (no offense to lovers of the El). I think most won't go at all if they have to slum it. I know I won't. I know my friends won't. If they can't stay in a hotel of the level they're accustomed to, they just won't go.
And you're right about the marketing to the gay audience, when they do it, they do it quietly and that is because they fear the stigma of being labeled a "gay hotel," due to the homophobias of the straight people...."WE can't stay there, that's a GAY HOTEL" while picturing all kinds of silliness involving togas, farm animals and leather.
I know Paris caters to the gay audience, and doesn't bother me a damn bit, but I know some people that it would make them sketchy.
That's why the majors don't openly and broadly market to the LGBT crowd

 

You nailed it. LOL

 

Agreed. The strip may become the destination of living it up for those 4 or so days and that's it.

No more, "I'm going 4 times a year" stuff by the average joe.

 

Those oh-so-hip party kiddies somehow have the $$$$ to spend, and that's what makes the casino management types drool!

 

It's an old Dutch name. Has a very rich history in Colonial and Revolutionary America.

Gansevoort has lately become a nickname for an area in Manhattan, formerly quite gritty ("meatpacking district") but now uber-trendy. "Suckling pigs sold here."

 

There's a scene in the movie "Shame", where the lead character, obsessed with sex, is watching from the street at a couple going at it up above. I'm sure it's the same Hotel as it's in the meat packing district.
As a lowly Gold card member, is this what has/will become? Will i be subjected to bullying by the 20 somethings in there partying till 4 am while i'm just ecstatic to get a free stale pastry from my TR card? Is that my reward?

 

Looks like it is the Revel of Vegas. Nice rooms though but expensive. Reminds me of the ones I would see in Old Montreal with the brick walls and such.

 

The name GANSEVOORT projects an image of absolute rich snobbery, without an iota of fun. Imagine if they had approached that image of pretension with a sense of irony (perhaps a Downton Abbey-type of theme) and served the luxury with a sense of wit. It might have invoked a chuckle instead of a gag reflex.

 

I think you're overthinking it. Gansevoorts are not really rich and snobby...they've been around here for like a decade and are better associated more with nightlife and people doing lines in the bathrooms. Your upper crust ladies who lunch, garden party type people are probably not going to be staying there.

Who really cares if they plan to charge more than other hotels? It's not going to move any markets. It's 188 rooms, that's nothing, there are probably more rooms than that on a single floor of some strip hotels.

 

Charming...so I guess the John Wayne suite will be replaced by the Lindsay Lohan?

 

I was thinking more along the line of Paris Hilton ;-)

 

It's almost funny the reaction people have had to this announcement. Things change, its the way of life, and moreso in a place like Las Vegas. And Gansevoort is actually the name of the street in New York City where it started - not some crazy made up name. I for one am looking forward to this. Bill's never appealed to me - but if you want the low-budget thing there are plenty of options still.

 

I loved Bills, so I'll personally miss it. I don't think it was a dump at all. Of course, I'm the great defender of the IP/Quad. I was a huge fan of the Victorian Cafe.

As long as there is a place for everyone, I'm ok with it. The good thing about another property going upscale? Its probably going to move some of the mid scale properties down a notch. Supply and demand still rules, and there are only so many people willing to pay $150 plus for a room in Vegas. I'm not one of them. I enjoy an upscale restaurant or two, but I am a firm believer that Vegas will always attempt to appeal to the masses. And trust me, the masses aren't made of money. Vegas to them is a reasonably affordable vacation destination. Those are the people filing the rooms.

To each his own....

 

I wonder, when the original Aladdin, Sands, Stardust or Flamingo was built, were they built as "low roller-low budget" properties?
Of course not, but they became that. When they opened, they were crown jewels with the latest amenities, and for the time, they weren't really that cheap, it just seems that they were cheap to us today because we're comparing 1950's dollars to 2010 dollars.

How much was $20 back in the 1955 compared to today?
http://www.davemanuel.com/inflation-calculator.php

So a $25 Stardust room, in 1955, would be the same as $213 today

So, low price casino/hotel don't start out cheap, they just get pushed down the hierarchy to the bottom and newer and newer is built.

 

Bill's = The Gansvoort Las Vegas????

I knew about Bill's closure & renovations, but I stumbled upon this article. They are transforming Bill's into "unique upscale lifestyle experience" with "Parisian apartment-style rooms"?

Does Las Vegas REALLY NEED another "upscale" destination? I loved going into Bill's and enjoying a non-pretentious atmosphere. It wasn't grimy or cheap (a la Casino Royale & O'Shea's) but it had STYLE, it had CHARACTER.

I'm utterly pissed that the whole Linq project and corporate America is starting to RUIN the LV experience. I don't know what these people are thinking, but it sucks that Las Vegas is catering to the 20 something Hollywood hipster American Idol club crowd, and less on the GAMBLERS. When you make everything exclusive, NOTHING becomes exclusive.

Just my $0.02.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/casinos-gaming/new-york-hotel-developer-joins-caesars-bills-gamblin-hall-remodeling