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Gaming areas legally must be open to the public?

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by Jaygee77, Mar 14, 2017.

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  1. Jaygee77

    Jaygee77 Low-Roller

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    I'm spinning off this topic into its own thread, since we hijacked the "drunk arrests" thread with the topic...

    Does anyone know the current law around Vegas casinos needing to be open to the public? My understanding is that all gaming areas needed to be open to the public. For example, the swim-up blackjack tables at Caesars Palace cannot be limited to resort guests only, and I'm able to play there as long as there is a spot open at the table. However, Vegas casinos are often categorized as private clubs in other regards, and individuals can be barred from playing blackjack at the casino's discretion.

    Obviously I only have a barebones, hearsay knowledge of the situation. Can anyone speak to the laws behind all of this?
     
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    What do you do? Just hop in in your street clothes?
     
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    Everyone knows that a true degenerate always has a swimsuit on under his/her clothes for an emergency swim-up blackjack opportunity. :wink2:
     
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    Especially in the Linq garage, after a monsoon
     
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    when you see the card counters increasing their bets, it is time to dive in.
     
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    SaltyNutSnack LSU 2019 National Champions! Geaux Tigers!

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    Out of everything from that article, the biggest thing that stuck to me was this :

    "The new Las Vegas resort is 48 stories tall, but the private salons are located on the 63rd floor -- a discrepancy explained by the lack of floors starting with the number four. Asians associate four, which sounds similar to "death" in Chinese dialects, with bad luck."
     
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    SaltyNutSnack LSU 2019 National Champions! Geaux Tigers!

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    Well either way, I will never get to see it! LoL
     
  9. vetsen

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    I've always wondered how this applies to the machines at the airport.
     
  10. Jaygee77

    Jaygee77 Low-Roller

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    Meaning?

    Everyone can play them.
     
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    They should do some math. The building has 48 stories. That would result in 9 floors starting with a 4 (4, 40-48). If we add these 9 to 48 we can go up til floor 57. Still a lot of air to reach 63.
     
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    The floors above the casino start at 5 (not sure why) and go to 63. They skip 40-49 and also 13. That makes 48 floors above the casino with the top one being 63.
     
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    http://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/shows/blackjack-pool-hit-caesars
    In this article from 2011, it says: "Fortuna at the Garden of the Gods Pool Oasis Where: Caesars Palace, 3570 Las Vegas Blvd. South Hours: 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. daily. Cover charge: Locals get in free during the week; admission is $20 on weekends".

    I guess that means you don't have to be a hotel guest. But things are constantly changing in Vegas. Best to contact Caesars directly and ask.
     
  15. Kolmeseiska

    Kolmeseiska Low-Roller

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    Everyone who have bought an airline ticket and are flying out on that you mean?
     
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    When Circus Circus first opened Jay Sarno charged an admission to get into the casino. His reasoning was that there were circus acts performing so a fee was justified. And there was originally no hotel at CC so he needed to get revenue any way he could. Back then a lot of people paid cab fares with chips and the drivers got ticked off that they had to pay a fee to go inside to cash in their chips so Sarno eventually got rid of the admission charge.
     
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    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    Those that operate the machines are not restricting public access to the gambling areas at all. The federal government does restrict access to certain areas of the airport of course, but once there the gambling areas are totally open to the "public". So, no issue there at all.
     
  18. Kolmeseiska

    Kolmeseiska Low-Roller

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    I know, but that's probably what the person who asked the question meant. Is it just the federal government who can do such thing? Can a casino owner restrict access to certain areas of the casino but once there the gambling areas are totally open to the "public"?

    I really don't care but trying to clear the point.
     
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    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    You really can not compare the airport to casinos. Just not the same thing.

    Within casinos, I have walked deep into some higher limit areas without anyone stopping me. Got lots of "looks" of course and felt very unwelcome. But, just wanted to see how far I could go. As to the earlier discussions about ultra high limit areas and access.... is requiring a certain level of credit okay? Guessing it is based on the likes of the Wynn mentioned above. Or these
     
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  20. Jaygee77

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    The articles indicated that there is a separate regulation specifically for the private high roller areas that require $300k in either cash up front, line of credit, or some combination of the two.
     
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