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Gambling at a sister property while on a comp

Discussion in 'Comps' started by bnlphan, Jul 11, 2017.

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  1. bnlphan

    bnlphan Degenerate In Training

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    If I'm on a comp at Flamingo am I going to hurt my future offers if I give the Cromwell most of my gambling money? Hopefully Cromwell will still have the good video poker when I'm out there. I really dont care if I burn bridges but just want to know if its going to happen so I can be sure to give considerable play at another Casino for future offers.

    Thanks for any help.

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  2. Tatertot

    Tatertot Low-Roller

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    Was the room setup by a host or just a promo offer from CET corporate?

    If the room was just a promo offer, than I have always found that they could care less if you spread the play across their properties. As long as the dollars come into their establishments and they see your action during the trip, they are happy. If the play was setup by a host at the Flamingo and you run off and play at Pho or Caesars, than that is a different story.

    I am about to take my first trip back to vegas this week in a couple years and haven't even gambled at a CET property in over 2 years at all (Vegas property in 3 years) and still have comped rooms in Vegas on my calendar despite no promotional offers. All they care about is your history and what they can expect out of you if they throw you a room.
     
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    bnlphan Degenerate In Training

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    Just the rate calendar prices. I've yet to receive any mail or specific offer for free nights. Was just looking I'm comped sunday through Thursday and most weekends at atleast 3 CET vegas properties no matter the dates. Shame our travel dates arent flexible as I could get better deals but limited to college spring break week because of gf's work schedule.

    Excuse me for being a bit naive about this. I've never really dealt with comps to this extent before but it raises a couple of questions.

    1. I can book multiple offers either at Vegas or Local CET properties as much as I want taking advantage of the comps? So long as I give them the coin in they are looking for?
    2 If I go to local property on a comp and fail to meet whatever coin in they are looking for this fall will it affect my reservation in March in Vegas?
     
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    Tatertot Low-Roller

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    1. Yes, you can book the offers while they are available, but if your play levels don't match up to what they are looking for, the offers will disappear or will go from Comp to rate discounts. Las Vegas room comps are extremely easy to come by for low roller locations, but ironically, places like Horseshoe SI and Horseshoe Cincinnati can become a little tougher if you stop visiting or don't give them the play they want.

    2. No, shouldn't have an affect. They want to get you out there and see what you will give them.
     
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    bnlphan Degenerate In Training

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    Thanks so much Tatertot
     
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    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    All offers are based on historical play. As your play averages go up an down, your offers will go up and down. Along with other internal factors that you have no control or knowledge of. Sometimes they will be pushing to get more people into the casino, so the offers get better. Sometimes they decided they are doing fine and will reduce what they give away.

    As to one trip being less than what they were expecting... you are fine. It still goes towards overall averages.
     
  7. The Rumor

    The Rumor VIP Whale

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    Others can confirm, but my understanding is CET uses something like a centralized rating for LV. Meaning, gambling at the Cromwell is fine if you are staying at Flamingo. Gambling 2 hours at Ballys, 2 hours at Flamingo, 2 hours at Linq, etc. in the same day is basically the same as putting 6 hours in at Flamingo. Their core measure is your theoretical loss per day across the LV casinos.

    MLife, historically, had bigger issues with this - the property level ratings were more walled off, and the offers could vary by casino in ways that were silly.
     
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    DDB Low-Roller

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    I'm no CET comp expert, but I think the answer to your question is "probably".

    Usually in Vegas, I would spread play around to multiple CET properties. Soon after getting home, I would have all sorts of room offers with usually a little FP thrown in.

    My last trip, the only play I gave CET was the "full pay" machines at Cromwell. I haven't recieved an offer since -despite quite a few hours at these machines. Seems the theo on these machines is set really, really low.
     
  9. Nevyn

    Nevyn VIP Whale

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    Where generally doesn't matter with CET.

    BUT the good Cromwell VP machines are $50/point instead of $10/point.

    I would expect the effect of coin in on ADT for those machines to be similarly discounted. You'd have to play 5x as much to get the same offers for that play as you would a random short pay machine at Flamingo or elsewhere.


    PRO TIP: The CET calendar gives you rates and comps generally a year out from the current date, so you can lock up a couple tentative comp reservations before your stay. Then if you burn your bridges and rates go away anyway, you can potentially have other free stays to establish yourself elsewhere.
     
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    Thanks everyone. have a better understanding now.
     
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