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Table Games Full Baccarat Downtown

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by Golfer, Jan 27, 2017.

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  1. Golfer

    Golfer Low-Roller

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    I'm curious if any place has full baccarat. I had heard that Golden Nugget has traditional baccarat. I'm a bit skeptical as I was told it was in their high limit room, and their table minimum was $25.00, which is really low given how slow traditional baccarat can go.

    I did try to search the site, and also GN's web-site.

    Any insight would be appreciated. I'd also be interested if any of the other casinos might consider taking a mini table and letting people play full baccarat if there was enough interest. I'm going to ask. I'l probably get laughed at. But there would be enough of us to fill a table, and I don't think anyone would be under $100 per hand.

    Thoughts? Am I crazy? (I already know the answer to this question by the way)
     
  2. Drewm1972

    Drewm1972 VIP Whale

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    I don't have any ideas if GN has that game either but I'll be very surprised if they did...when you say full baccarat table I'm assuming you referring to 10 people seating table where two dealers and a supervisor? I know bellagio has it in back HL room (they rearranged it last year so I'm not sure if they still do)
    So... @Golfer what's your answer? I'll be very interest playing.
     
  3. Golfer

    Golfer Low-Roller

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    I called GN and got an answer. They have a medi table. You can touch the cards, and in their high limit room they try to keep one table at $25, and one at $100.

    I don't see a lot on here about baccarat players. It's a secondary game for me. But hopefully this information is helpful to downtown baccarat players.

    And I'd still take other comments about a full baccarat game downtown.
     
  4. Golfer

    Golfer Low-Roller

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    Well, it's a complicated answer. Most think I'm crazy. Probably about 90%. But there is this rule. To oversimplify, if I thought the way 90% of people thought, and did what 90% of people do, I'd get the same results that 90% of people get. So I'm o.k. with the 10% that think I'm normal, because as a general rule I prefer the results that 10% of people get.

    Anyway, that's me. Probably crazy.
     
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  5. Drewm1972

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    Um yeah.. ok.... what??? Lol :blink::goofy:
     
  6. Drewm1972

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    @Golfer where do you play your baccarat mostly?
     
  7. Golfer

    Golfer Low-Roller

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    I have not played a lot of baccarat in Las Vegas. I went to Atlantic City this fall and played traditional baccarat at the Tropicana AC.

    I'm staying downtown SB weekend (Plaza), so probably there. After I made arrangements for SB weekend, I got an offer from Golden Nugget for rooms and their Super Bowl party. Also, some strip properties. I had seriously considered canceling my arrangements and going to one of the other places, but I can't do that to the host that set me up already.

    I'll probably spend some time at the Aria, and might play there as well.
     
  8. XKxRome0ox

    XKxRome0ox Low-Roller

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    so the only difference between mini-bacc and full baccarat is just the number of max. player spots?
     
  9. Golfer

    Golfer Low-Roller

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    Full baccarat - you can touch the cards. You actually can rip them to shreds if you want. Your commission is physically tracked, and physically paid on a banker bet after every shoe. It normally has higher limits (but it can be significantly slower game).

    Midi - you can touch cards, lower limits, dealer deals the cards. No physical commission, it's usually incorporated in the pay back. That differs.

    Mini - dealer deals, you can't touch, lower limits, faster game. Can get up to 200 hands per hours. No physical commission payments.

    It varies from casino to casino. Just as in craps where the Wynn is a great casino, but not so good for a craps player, the same thing exists in baccarat.
     
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  10. XKxRome0ox

    XKxRome0ox Low-Roller

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    ah
    i don't care to touch the cards but i do like having the option
    thanks for the explanation
     
  11. Golfer

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  12. Scottndindy

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    I think the description of Mini, Midi, and big table baccarat might need some clarification. The game started as Big table baccarat only. This was dealt with 3 dealers. The game was either dealt by the dealer or the shoe could be passed. This game was labor intensive and took up a lot of room in the casino.

    Midi baccarat is a table that is about the size of a blackjack table and sits lower than a standard table. The dealer always deals the cards and allows the top wagering player on each side to handle them. Commission can be marked at the top of the layout or can be taken out of wager each hand.

    Mini baccarat is similar to Midi baccarat but the top wagering player on each side does not ever touch the cards. The dealer always flips the cards. Commission can be marked at the top or resolved each hand.

    There are some variants of baccarat that do not charge a commission. On these types you generally will not be paid with a winning 7 point banker hand or get half on a 6 point winning banker hand.

    Comps - The amount of time you are rated for at midi baccarat is generally based upon completion of shoe. If you go through a shoe in 45 minutes or 4 hours you will be rated for 1 hour generally.
     
  13. Golfer

    Golfer Low-Roller

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    Scottndindy adds clarity. I don't express myself very well via typing. Full traditional baccarat has two dealers and a caller. There is a name for the caller, which I don't recall. Usually when the shoe is passed everyone just keeps passing it along and the dealer deals. But a player can deal. And usually, at least from what I've seen, there is very little distraction on the felt. No dragon bets etc. The bets probably exist, but the games I've played the felt doesn't have a lot of printing on it. Also, the commission has a box, and on the full baccarat tables I've played, it is in the center of the table.
     
  14. FullBoat

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    I think both TheD, and GG have Mini in their high roller areas. Never played it before, but I remember seeing the tables back there in passing.
     
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    To be clear... is the $25 table one where you can touch the cards? Or is that just the $100 table?
     
  16. Golfer

    Golfer Low-Roller

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    Yesterday both tables.
     
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    So, in the end, who has the full bac table, the 14-player table?
     
  18. Golfer

    Golfer Low-Roller

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    I walked all over yesterday. The D and Golden Nugget have midi. Elco has mini. Plaza took their mini out for at least the weekend. DG doesn't have any.
     
  19. Scottndindy

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    Finding a full table is very hard. The only casino I know that keeps a full table active regularly is caesars palace. Other properties generally only have them by request only from a large player.
     
  20. XKxRome0ox

    XKxRome0ox Low-Roller

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    yes
    caesars palace has a full baccarat table in the high roller room
    i play there from time to time

    but i typically just bounce around the smaller tables since i am trying to bet 3x and go
     
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