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Free play or just free nights?

Discussion in 'Comps' started by westcanguy, Dec 4, 2021.

  1. westcanguy

    westcanguy Low-Roller

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    Have a trip booked to arrive on the 20th to take advantage of 5x multiplier. Plans have changed and now flying in on the 13th and driving out to Palm Springs for 5 nights before my original booking starts. Was thinking of staying over night in Vegas for 2 nights before the road trip.
    Question I have is, can I book the 3 night 225.00 FP offer and stay 2 nights or am I better off just taking the free nights because I don't expect to give a lot of play for those 2 days. By booking a FP offer a week earlier affect the same offer I already booked a week later at another CET property??
     
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    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    Just taking the free nights will trigger the system as a trip and your ADT will be impacted, with or without the FP.
     
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  3. Chuck2009x

    Chuck2009x VIP Whale

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    The value of freeplay is part of the total value they're willing to comp you. If you booked the two nights using regular calendar availability without the freeplay, you might be able to get a more expensive room type.

    The main difference in this case is that you're kind of leveraging the freeplay by only staying 2 nights. You'll average $112.50/night in freeplay instead of the $75/night you would if you stayed 3 nights.

    If you short play compared to your typical average per night, that could affect your future offers, but the FP itself shouldn't really. And short playing won't affect the stay you already had booked.
     
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  4. westcanguy

    westcanguy Low-Roller

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    Thank you for your helpful comments. My biggest concern was this short booking affecting my original booking that starts 6 days later. Your comments have alleviated those concerns. I'm pretty sure between the the two stays, they will get substantial play from me. I just hope the VP Gods smile on me and I don't get bored with BP and BPD to grind out a 5 night stay.
     
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  5. StuartUK

    StuartUK Low-Roller

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    sorry to hijack, but what if you dont use the FP or RC against the comp, do you think it matters much ?
    ie: Take the free room, which has a $ against it, but not use the FP/RC that comes with it....
     
  6. westcanguy

    westcanguy Low-Roller

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    Hi StuartUK, I thought the same as you but as it was pointed out above, and it makes sense... is that I'm getting a free room so they will be monitoring my play anyway so I may as well take the FP and see what can happen with that. If I come up a little short, I do get another chance a week later at another CET property with some more FP.
     
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    If you are talking about a situation where you are booked on an offer with FP and RC and you know in advance you are going to underplay, maybe it helps a tiny bit, but probably not that much. If you're in that situation with a CET reservation, a better option might be to cancel the offer reservation and rebook using regular calendar availability. And a secondary strategy (at any chain/property) would be to book another future trip before you go, and lock in your current offer terms.

    In @westcanguy 's case, if he goes and plays at his normal level on his second trip, he's mostly going to fix any damage he does on the first. And since they're both in the same month, there's a good chance he'll never see a change in his offers.
     
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  8. maxev

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    I've actually done this a few times with the intention of low-playing the first trip, knowing my second trip (that's already booked) will make up for it.

    I would always take whatever offers you get since you've earned it from past play. And you never know that you may end up playing more than you expect (that's usually how I run -- intention to low- or no-play, then hmm let's just play a little, cut to 8 hours later).


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  9. Brandt

    Brandt Low-Roller

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    I am of the theory to use all offers that you have earned. 1) you never know what changes will occur in the future 2) I have found that fluctuation in level of play can have little impact....ie mlife for example my play has varied wildly over the past year and each month my offers are the same. 3) if your offers do take a hit, it is not forever.
     
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  10. StuartUK

    StuartUK Low-Roller

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    cheers all,
    So far, i got x3 bookings (all mlife, dont really do CET casinos), MGM in May, then Delano & Luxor in June.
    I figured i earned the option over the years to be rewarded with suites + FP/RC , so in 1 hand, thought might as well plough through the offerings...
    But my style of play is unusual, i hit slots & tables (BJ) to have fun, and hope to win, and sink a few Bourbons! :D , my betting is sporadic, where i go on $10 hits upto $50 average, but get stupid sometimes and hit 1 or $200 hands sometimes...
    I am far from a mid roller, i personally think low roller!, guess in my case, maybe its the time spent playing helps...

    I do think sometimes maybe if i dont play to the level they (computer algorithm) expect when i take suites from mlife + FP/RC, would it go against me in the future , then thought what if i take the room only offering, and not the $$$ goodies, would it throw the computer out, and continue with decent offerings...
    Being from the UK, the free rooms is the drive to come to Vegas for a holiday, so i book the free comp's many months in advance, never a backend comp....
    Cheers for the reply all :)
     
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  11. westcanguy

    westcanguy Low-Roller

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    I think that if your level of play isn't what they expected, they might drop the amount of FP they offer but the free rooms will continue. A former host told me "Give me 4 hours of play a day and you won't have to worry about paying for a room"
     
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