Four Queens Coupon Book Question

Hi All,

I will staying at the Four Queens in early Jan 2022 and would like to know if the Four Queens coupon books have anything for their shows, like Mike Hammer.

Also, thanks to the contributors to this forum, we opted for the South Tower and we will ask for a room facing away from Fremont St. Previously we have always stayed in the standard North Tower rooms, which are fine, but the noise is sometimes annoying.

With the Golden Nugget's offer for no resort fees we could have stayed there for less but we like the Four Queens better, crazy right?

 

No, their coupon book has no show discounts in it. However, discounts do exist. We had a guy from a show handing out discount tickets for one of their shows in the resturant. You might also check the box office for any discounts. Ask hotel checkin also.

Crazy?? crazy like a Fox! If you are going to play where you stay, then 4Q has full pay VP with maybe the best slot club in the city. And Golden Nugget has no full pay games. Yes, it is ‘glitzyer’, and you will help pay of that glitz when you play there.

 

*Definitely* the best slot club in the city and probably one of the best on the planet.

Depending on how much you play, you might check in the host office and see if they can comp you any tickets. If the show is not sold out, the answer may very well be "yes."

 

I doubt if our play will get us anything more that good cocktail service but I'll ask about show tickets.

Years ago we would get comps at the Sahara playing $1 blackjack . Maybe no comps is better for us, no chasing expensive 'freebies'.

 

Do you only play table games? If that is the case, then yes, comps at the Four Queens might be on the lighter side. But if you play any slots at all, use a players card and don't be afraid to check and see what your action can get you. You might be surprised. They are *very* generous.

 

We don't usually play slots but I have seen that people that do will be comped. I figure that blackjack and VP comps are slim because the casinos aren't making as much profit on those games. That's ok, we are just playing for kicks but I have to admit that free meals are nice.

We have the 55+ players club card from Four Queens and the 20% off of rooms and meals there is probably better that slot comps.

 

Four Queens actually gives very decent comps for VP action. As long as you play 8 dollar/point machines, you should at least qualify for a casino rate on your rooms with even modest play. 500 points a day seems to be what they look for to comp rooms on the backend, and that should get you decent mailers as well.

 

4Q does award comp dollars AND cash back points for VP play; even though the earning rate is lower than slots, the VP comp dollars can add up when you play with your card. The great thing at 4Q is you can pay with your comp dollars AFTER they take off the 20% for 55+ and if you have enough to cover the whole meal the sales tax is waived (NV casinos don't have to collect tax - 8% IIRC - on a free meal).
The comps earned show when you put the card in a VP/slot machine. Presenting the players card to the cashier (self comping) is so much easier than going to a 4Q host to see how much you've earned (the 'old way', about a decade ago).
Plus, don't forget the BOGO meal voucher you can get at the players club (both 4Q and Binions) if you are in Vegas during the month of your birthday.

 

We play either 1 or 5 quarters of 9/6 JoB at the Four Queens and do this for fun and drinks. Are we shortchanging ourselves by not playing for higher stakes to earn points. We like Magnolia's and eat there at least once a day so points for meals sounds like a good trade.

Is there a formula or rule-of-thumb estimate to help with this decision? I don't want to chase comps that cost more than they are worth.

 

9/6 quarter JoB accumulates .00625 of the amount bet each time you hit draw (coin-in) at 4Q. You also get half that amount as cash back points. So if you played 80 hands at $1.25 ($100) you earned 62 cents in comps just for having a players card inserted. I assume you have one (with the Club 55 notation) if you are getting the 20% food discount. Comp balances stay active as long as you earn at least 1 point every 12 months. Cash back points can be redeemed at players club once you have minimum of $5 (200 points/40 pts per $1).
62 cents per $100 doesn't sound like a lot, but it builds up over time and it's free money just for inserting the card. You also could get mailers based on play (different levels based on total coin- in). Even a low level BOGO free room offer would be a 50% discount for a two night stay (vs. 20% for just 55+).
When you put the card in the machine, the little display should show your comp balance in $ and the number of points you have.
I am not saying you have to chase a free meal, but I do think you should play with a card inserted and let the amounts accumulate based on your normal play. Even betting 1 quarter gets you .00625 of the amount bet (you don't have to bet max coin to earn).
Higher stakes can actually hurt your earning rate: 4Q just removed $1 JoB on the $8 per point machines and charges $16 per point on the 4 machines with $1 JoB. Quarter VP on the floor wasn't changed. VPfree2 summarizes most of these details under Players Club.

 

You can earn plenty of points just playing VP for quarters. Obviously, don't chase comps, just play you normally would. Four Queens treats loyal low rollers very well. My last trip, I sat next to a loyal quarter VP player who gets rooms comped every time he goes to Four Queens. He plays a fraction of the coin-in I do.

But you are most certainly short-changing yourselves by ever playing for less than 5 credits (5 quarters in your case). You are handing over 2 percent in expected value to the casino by shutting yourself out of the full 1,000 dollar payout on a royal flush. You may think to yourself "but that is just on the royal, that won't happen to me," but you will feel awful when that royal does hit if you weren't max betting. My advice on your upcoming trip would be to max bet quarters on their 9/6 JoB machines at the level you would normally play. Provided you max bet and use even a simple strategy, 9/6 JoB for quarters is a positive EV play. Use the points you accrue to pay at Magnolias, and check with a host about a room comp or at least a casino rate before you leave. Four Queens hosts are extremely easy going. Again I think you will be surprised how much they value your play.

 

I hope you folks can stand more questions about VP points at the Four Queens.

My wife and I each have a 55+ card and rack up points separately.

Would it be better to have a single account we each contribute to? Is this allowed?

 

Four Queens doesn't mind you sharing a card, but it makes no sense to do so. It best for each of you to play on your own card, because that allows you to essentially double dip on their promotions. So for example, if promotion that month is play 200 points and get a 50 dollar comp bonus on your card, why would you take 50 dollars between the two of you when the casino is offering to give that amount to each? Same with tee shirts, mugs, whatever. They are the most generous casinos in Vegas, and a smart player will milk that for all it is worth.

Hope this helps.

 

Remember this only applies to eateries that are owned by the casino. Virtually all leased restaurants inside casinos will charge tax on comp purchases.

 

Actually playing on the same card makes a whole lotta cents (sense) if youre playing a notable amount. 4Q montly mail offers are based on cumulative points earned per trip so if two people can reach play thresholds of certain levels on the same acct, the mailer value increases exponentially.

Now if they're just small players earning a few hundred points each per day then, yes, playing to earn the daily promos like they're offering in Nov/Dec does make more cents (sense).

 

Any thoughts on how long would someone have to play JOB at the quarter level (max bet) to earn enough points to get something worthwhile, like a meal or room? We have plenty of tee shirts and coffee cups. I know this depends on how fast we play, and I can't say what that rate is since we have never paid much attention to points in the past. We do spend several hours a day playing JOB at the Four Queens and out trips typically are for four nights.

 

As a general guideline, 500 points per day should at least generate some weeknight room comps and modest free play/dining offers. Other members might be better versed on the exact numbers, but I have heard this quoted from quarter players on the floor.

 

I believe 500 points is 12.50$ cash and 25 food (if still 20 points = a $ comp and 40 points = a $ cash). So if you went for 3 days and earned 500 a day, you’d have 75$ comp and 37.50$ cash out or carry over
BUT on the floor it is 8$ coin in for a point / 16$ coin in at the bars. So that is between 4K and 8k depending on your location.

 

The answer is: It depends on the promotions and how many points you need/expect to earn. I know your trip isn't till January (and I haven't seen any posts about Jan/Feb promos) so here is an example using the Nov/Dec promotion:
"Earn 100 points and receive a $10 food credit; earn 300 points and receive $30 free play." You can do this each day.
Thus, if you expect to play long enough to earn 600 points (total for both) play separately till you each have 300. Once you have maxed out the daily promotion, use one card acct to drive up that card's level.
However, if you expect to earn only 400, then play separately till you each have a 100, then switch to one card to get to 300 on that one.
JoB at 4Q is $8 for a point, so $800 (640 hands at $1.25) to get to 100 points. When you sit down at a machine, check the time, play your normal pace, then after 15 minutes check your point total and multiple by 4 to estimate your hourly points rate.

When you arrive at 4Q, check the players club for ongoing promotions and how to claim. Before your trip, watch VMB for posts about announced 4Q offers. If you search on "Four Queens - Nov & Dec Mailer" you can review previous posts about 4Q offers and point levels.

 

Thanks for explaining, your help has inspired me to donate a small sum to vegasmessageboard.