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Dozens of flights canceled due to extreme heat

Discussion in 'Getting There & Getting Around' started by jr7110, Jun 20, 2017.

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  1. jr7110

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    Looks like American Airlines is the main one canceling.
     
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    I understand those regional-jets just don't get the lift in such extreme heat. Even if it's borderline, I think I'd pass... lotta pressure on carriers to get people where they need to be.
     
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    I canceled my trip to Vegas in lieu of this...no point in risking an inconvenience. On the comment of American Airlines, they have the oldest fleet (that I've been on) when it comes to servicing Vegas, so it doesn't surprise me that they're grounded.
     
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    AA has USAir's old hub in Phoenix, that's not really a surprise
     
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    This is not right. Their weakest points on domestic flights are MD-80s, which are heavily based out of Dallas for short haul flights. IIRC, they don't fly any of these to LAS anymore, because they don't base them at PHX or LAX. I do think they fly some old Airbuses from PHX to LAS, but that flight is so short it's hard for me to care.

    AA varies flight by flight, but their fleet is pretty young overall relative to the average domestic carriers - your average Delta flight is a lot older than your average American flight. USAir and its successor, American, have bought a ton of new planes. You can still get stuck on some of it depending upon the route but LAS is fine on AA in my many experiences.

    if you really want to know, just go look up your AA flight when you book it or check something like flight aware. They are flying tons of newer 737s and midsize Airbuses on most of their longer haul routes. https://thepointsguy.com/2017/04/avoid-americans-oldest-planes/ this sort of thing is helpful - you really do have to look flight by flight on the legacy carriers.

    Allegiant almost certainly is the oldest fleet out of McCarran for a domestic carrier (assuming you are on one of their MD-80s).
     
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    That's why I love this board...I'll revise my post. Thanks a ton for the info!
     
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    Well I would never cancel a trip to Vegas because of this, but I would definitely monitor the situation to be safe. If there is a cancellation on their end, the airline would have to rebook you at no charge.
     
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    Fair warning to people on this board: That's a lot easier for big carriers like Southwest and American to do than a small low cost carrier who may only fly to your city twice a week. Generally, Allegiant, Spirit, etc. are not going to pay to rebook you on a United flight. In many cases, they will give you your money back and tell you good luck getting home.
     
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    AA used to have some old planes, no doubt, especially if you were in the "wrong" spot from one of their legacy carriers (e.g. TWA flew MD-80s like crazy out of STL, America West flew tons of Airbuses out of Phoenix that are now long in the tooth) but the post-bankruptcy plan to refresh their fleet really helped them. They are 4-5 years in now.

    Delta is the ancient one among the US big carriers. They believe old planes are underpriced and reasonable to maintain, especially in a world of cheap gas. They buy really old planes and give them a once over to make them seem new - new seat layouts, add wifi, etc. For example, when Southwest ate up AirTran, Delta took a bunch of old 717s from them.
     
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