1. Welcome to VegasMessageBoard
    It appears you are visiting our community as a guest.
    In order to view full-size images, participate in discussions, vote in polls, etc, you will need to Log in or Register.

Diamond in a day or two

Discussion in 'Comps' started by aaisack, Mar 6, 2016.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Guy_

    Guy_ VIP Whale

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2014
    Messages:
    1,530
    Location:
    Ontario Canada
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    27
    If Bonus Poker at 7/5 paytable is a payback percentage of 98.01% (This is probably the best you will find on the strip?)

    To get 5000 TC's (and the 10000 bonus points) you would need to run $50,000 thru the machine.
    Based on that, the average cost to achieve Diamond in a day would be $995.
    Keep in mind that the number would likely be higher if you don't hit a Royal flush and much lower if you do.


    If you can find the 8/5 Bonus poker (that still awards 1 TC per $10) I believe the payback is 99.1%
    Based on that, the average cost to achieve Diamond in a day would be $450

    Keep in mind The odds of you actually being right on the average are very low.. you will either be higher or lower depending on your luck :p

    This also assumes that you play perfect strategy with no mistakes
     
  2. DDB

    DDB Low-Roller

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2015
    Messages:
    409
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    18
    /\ right.
    While playing $1 VP, don't undersetimate how fast the hundys can disappear. I generally play DDB and TB+, which are more volatile than the BP discussed here, but when luck isn't on my side loosing $500-$800 per hour is very possible. A hundy every few minutes. If the quads come "on schedule" or they come frequently - you can do very well.
     
  3. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2013
    Messages:
    24,069
    Location:
    Chicagoland
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    24
    For the average person? Probably about $2500 since most people play slots.

    But it's obviously dependent on the game you choose to play.
     
  4. spdandpwr

    spdandpwr VIP Whale

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2016
    Messages:
    3,678
    Location:
    East Coast
    I want to find a hundred line JorB machine, but curious if there are many of those in Vegas or not. You can get VERY lucky on those machines...or unlucky. But, if you hit a two pair on your opening hand, then you're golden!!!!

    - - - Updated - - -

    For me, it's way more!!! Roulette murders me...I need to pick lower volatility games I guess. And slots are even worse.
     
  5. grosx2

    grosx2 Have fun storming the castle!

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2013
    Messages:
    3,077
    Location:
    Chicago
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    29
    Every CET property in Vegas has 100 play machines, I'm guessing most all properties do.

    CET paytables are pretty shitty, no surprise there....Cosmo has full pay 100 play machines according to vpfree.
     
  6. TIMSPEED

    TIMSPEED Comps on my account, or blood on my knife.

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2013
    Messages:
    8,003
    Location:
    BART Blue Line Train
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    0
    I can find 8/5 Bonus Poker, for $1 denomination, in a lot of CET casinos throughout the country...and they award 1 TC per $10 coin-in.
     
  7. Wonka

    Wonka Tourist

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2016
    Messages:
    80
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    10
    reading this thread and all other threads... i think I am going to venture into the VP world on my next trip. It sounds fun and a good way to kill time. (is that correct? on my understanding?)

    I usually play the floor games anywhere from baccarat, blackjack, roulette, pai gow, texas hold'em, 3CP, Crazy 4. it sounds like from the reading above I can still get decent credits/point for roughly $200/hour at vp if things go bad.
     
  8. grosx2

    grosx2 Have fun storming the castle!

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2013
    Messages:
    3,077
    Location:
    Chicago
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    29
    Ok. I thought we were talking about Vegas?
     
  9. TIMSPEED

    TIMSPEED Comps on my account, or blood on my knife.

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2013
    Messages:
    8,003
    Location:
    BART Blue Line Train
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    0
    the vegas strip is no place for a serious video poker player.
     
  10. grosx2

    grosx2 Have fun storming the castle!

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2013
    Messages:
    3,077
    Location:
    Chicago
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    29
    Agreed.
     
  11. aaisack

    aaisack High-Roller

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2014
    Messages:
    897
    Location:
    Gig Harbor, WA
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    57
    It's a great way to kill some time, especially if you like to drink, watch sports and collect comps. Keep in mind that while most video poker has low variance compared to most other games, you will occasionally have bad runs of 90% payback, even on the really good machines. I've lost a grand in a night playing full pay quarters. I'm a pretty fast player though.
     
  12. wanker751

    wanker751 Dutch Rudder Enthusiast

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2014
    Messages:
    7,484
    Location:
    Chicago
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    17
    Yeah I lost $100 on a 99.5% jacks quater machine in about an hour. Which is about as low as variance it gets inns vp. So yeah can be but bad runs happen.
     
  13. spdandpwr

    spdandpwr VIP Whale

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2016
    Messages:
    3,678
    Location:
    East Coast
    Just came back from an AC trip. 0 Tier credits before the trip, left with 83, now it's at 197. I'm guessing the points from tables came in? I was playing nickels on the inside and for some reason I think my point yields were stronger on the table games (which I didn't play for more than 2 hours total while there). Meanwhile, I only yielded 83 points playing VP about 2 hours. Does anyone have anything concrete on yields on the table games?
     
  14. kris4747

    kris4747 Newbie

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2015
    Messages:
    3
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    25
    Where are these located within the Rio and what denominations. I plan on doing a trip this month to attempt diamond in two days and will report back. Thank you,
     
  15. aaisack

    aaisack High-Roller

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2014
    Messages:
    897
    Location:
    Gig Harbor, WA
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    57
    http://www.vpfree2.com/casino/rio-all-suite-hotel-casino

    Two banks there don't penalize your tier credits.
     
  16. dragon7

    dragon7 Tourist

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2012
    Messages:
    54
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    8
    Does anyone know roughly what it would take to get 2500 points a day playing a double zero roulette wheel?
     
  17. adbynot

    adbynot High-Roller

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2010
    Messages:
    550
    Location:
    Edmonton,Alberta
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    9
    Going to try DIAD or DIAD2, considering the 10 play DSPT JoB at PHo but perhaps the 50 play STP BP at Bally's. I know that the JoB has a better return albeit over longterm, which would you chose? FYI: I would play 11-12 lines at STP BP to have the about the same coin-in as the DSTP machine. Anyone know if the DSTP has other OK paytables for different games too?
     
  18. totalee

    totalee Tourist

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2015
    Messages:
    58
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    8
    I am not a V/P player and from what I understand the casinos don't go overboard on comps for V/P play. But as one splitting between slots and the craps table getting Diamond in a day is much better so far as getting attention from hosts and getting good offers from the casino. For a few years I split it up over 2 or 3 days and I got good offers after I started doing it in a day I get regular calls from hosts and my offers got a lot better even though my total spending in the casino has probably been less.
     
  19. adbynot

    adbynot High-Roller

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2010
    Messages:
    550
    Location:
    Edmonton,Alberta
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    9
    Obviously Diad would only happen if at 2500 it is still going OK, otherwise DIAD2 would be better psychologically
     
  20. grosx2

    grosx2 Have fun storming the castle!

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2013
    Messages:
    3,077
    Location:
    Chicago
    Trips to Las Vegas:
    29
    Even though STP/DSTP increase the payback of a given pay tables, I would skip them if you are shooting for a set number of TCs. Much more volatile that regular VP. Unless you are consistently connecting on your multipliers, you have a much higher chance of going bust quickly.

    For DIAD/2D, you will need 50k coin in on VP. What is your starting bankroll? If it's high enough, then maybe STP/DSTP is a good option due to the increased payback.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.