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Table Games Craps at Cal

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by jhpa, Jul 10, 2017.

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  1. jhpa

    jhpa VIP Whale

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    What a major disappointment.

    I always thought of the Cal as a mecco for craps.
    Today i checked in to the GN and went to check out the places nearby. I played craps at the GN, plaza, golden gate and MSS. All had pluses and minuses, but all relatively enjoyable

    I walked into the CAL about 7 pm on a monday. No vibe whatsoever. Very bland crew. And the game itself - 2 times odds, no fire bet or all small tall. I played for about 45 minutes and was bored. No chatting with the crew. Nothing. I left.

    Am i missing something?
     
  2. The Rumor

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    Nope. Not if you play odds.
     
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  3. Codym002

    Codym002 Low-Roller

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    Nope, oftentimes there isn't even a crew down in the craps pit. Very bland.

    Have had a few good times there, obviously dependent on a full table. Cocktail waitresses buzz through there lightning fast, should there ever be enough people to even play.

    Double odds, stoic dealers...with tons of other options downtown, Cal is disappointing for craps. Not easy to say for a loyal Boyd customer.
     
  4. woodsie

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    I've never understood the 2x odds. It's not even competitive with the strip. I wonder who makes that call and why.
     
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  5. makikiboy

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    Unfortunately Fremont also has 2x odds. At least MSS offers 20x odds.

    No you aren't missing anything. The Cal's claim to fame is that they have a Golden Arm club and they have reunions and tournaments every year. People play at the Cal with the hope of rolling for over an hour so they can get into the GA club. That's about it. Nothing really special there but it is a favorite of the Hawaiian guests but I guess that's why they only offer 2x odds. I play mostly at MSS with the 20x odds and enjoy the game there.

    The A/S/T bets are relatively new and haven't taken hold downtown just yet. Many places are busy (MSS, Fremont) already so don't need more bet types, that's why no fire bets also. They do have hop bets.

    Usually Sunday and Monday are the slowest days, try visiting at 8 pm on a Friday or Saturday night or during football or special event times. But lately I noticed that the tables aren't as busy during the slow periods. Before I never played before 11 pm because the tables were too crowded but my last trip in April I was able to play most evenings.
     
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    I'm glad to see this thread because I think exactly the same way. It's the worst game available but somehow, through the miracle of good marketing, it has a good rep. Just amazing.

    Boyd's Sam's Town in Shreveport has the All Tall All Small bet on their 20X odds table. I know it's a sucker bet, but it's fun, so the price of that particular "entertainment" has the value to me. Maybe they'll bring it to MSS.
     
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    Neither have I.
    Especially with their Connected sister casino MSS offering 20x simply by going across the enclosed walkway.
    I've always wondered if the allure of making the "Golden Arm" wall of fame is what attracts players anyway.
     
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    Sam's Town in vegas also has that A/S/T bet.
     
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    I totally agree. I even asked and was told that the Cal has the Golden Arm & the Fremont has the Sharpshooter club so that is their incentive. I never understood that logic, probably just the BS line they give. We're staying at the Cal this time to check the new rooms but we'll play at the Main Street.:noangel:
     
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    I like MSS because of the 20x odds and the fact that they don't have a feature bet which slows the game down.
     
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    jimboguy My sloppy joe is all sloppy and no joe.

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    As others have said, jhpa you're not missing anything.
    As makikiboy said, Sam's has the A/S/T. They have a $3 table with 20x odds. If you want a change from walking across the Cal mezzanine to play at MSS, there's always the free Sam's Town Shuttle that departs from The Cal.
     
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  12. Electroguy563

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    On my last trip I didn't have as much fun and was somewhat disappointed also.

    The Cal seems to have a whole shitload of new dealers lately. Haven't seen the ones who are really fun and friendly for a long while.

    The veteran dealers are usually the most fun to play with. They know the game like the back of their hand and deal the game with pinpoint precision and speed.

    I tend to think these "bland" crews that are now manning the tables are still fresh and insecure, hence the lack of personality. Maybe it's because they are concentrating too much and afraid to screw up and make a mistake.

    Oh and another observation I noticed is the veteran dealers are now rotating as Boxmen. So maybe the good ones are moving up and being replaced with newbies.
     
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    Are the limits the same? I know Cal has $3 craps, which is offset by the lousy odds. But what are the minimums at MSS?
     
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    $5 on the table I was on last week
     
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    I believe Fremont has the $3 craps table w the 2x odds...
     
  16. makikiboy

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    Just to confirm, the Cal DOES NOT offer $3 craps. Fremont does offer $3 craps and markets it and the $3 bj table. But beware, you seem to be rated differently on the $3 crap table, even if you are playing $5 minimum bets on the table. And the counter to qualify for the sharpshooter club is different on the $3 table (need to shoot twice as much to qualify). But then some boxmen seem to be slow to increment the counter even on the $5 minimum table.
     
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    Good to know. Now I understand why I have played days on that table and have never received any comps
     
  18. Codym002

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    I've just asked for comps while playing table games. I ask one of the dealers for a pit boss, or whoever is in charge, and then I ask if I've earned any comps. Always nicely of course, but I can almost always get a free buffet.

    I've had a $40 buy in on the $3 table and got myself and a buddy free buffets, just for asking.

    What's the worst scenario, they say no?
     
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  19. makikiboy

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    My last trip was in April. I played mostly craps at MSS, Cal and Fremont. I usually buy in with $60 to $100. I usually don't stay long unless the table is warm or hot. Most days I was there (I was there for 5 days, got comped meals for 4 and 1 YAH comp) I asked for a comp and received it. I guess that the tables were mostly warm so I must have had enough on the tables to get a comp meal, at least for a free breakfast buffet or dinner buffet but one day (Tuesday) I got the seafood buffet. Also helped that I played on the YAH day and got a free dinner buffet. I played VP, put in $5 and won about $20 and got the free buffet. I have to remember to play on the YAH days when I'm in vegas.

    On my last day I got a comp but didn't use it. I got tired of all the buffet food and just went to In n Out instead.

    This was a big difference than previous visits where I only got 1 or at most 2 comped buffets.

    Yup, doesn't hurt to ask. Sometimes the pit boss also may give you a comp even though you didn't rate for it, I swear I didn't play that much and not that long and I ask and got a comped meal.
     
  20. bubbakitty

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    Two or three years ago at MSS I asked the pit guy (Black guy, no hair, built like a linebacker) who has a great smile and booming voice if he could make a reservation for me at the redwood. It was early afternoon and I didn't have a clue you just called the operator when the restaurant was closed. He did and asked what time/how many and came back with a slip of paper noting the time. He also handed me a 50$ credit for the meal. I was mildly taken aback as I only asked if he could get us a reservation. Played 30$ 6&8 and occasional pass line with some field bets (5$) for the boys.
    The cal too has given buffet comps and 777 / MSS buffet comps when asked after betting similar (less line bets due to 2x odds). But yes lately noting a change in the crew's demeanor overall.
     
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