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Comp offer at Venetian / Palazzo for new or inactive players

Discussion in 'Comps' started by shacktown, Aug 2, 2017.

  1. shacktown

    shacktown URComped Casino Host

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    It is absolutely my pleasure to take care of you,Yukon. I hope you and your wife have a wonderful trip!! :)
     
  2. Southpaw33

    Southpaw33 Low-Roller

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    I’m signing up today. Will update how it goes. My typical comps are always up to 5 free nights and $225 FP at all CET properties. Free flights to Reno and Laughlin from Denver for myself and a guest. I’m a diamond at CET. Hopefully I can test places like Venetian, Cosmo, Aria or Bellagio. Not sure what casinos you work with though?
     
  3. shacktown

    shacktown URComped Casino Host

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    We don't currently work with MLife properties or Cosmo but we DO work with Venetian / Palazzo on the strip and Golden Nugget downtown. The Total Rewards properties too, but it sounds like you already have all the offers you need from there. Off-strip we also work with the Station Casinos and Westgate.

    We are looking forward to taking care of you, Southpaw33! Thank you for signing up. Please feel free to PM me if you have any questions through the process :)
     
  4. Muskienut

    Muskienut Tourist

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    What would a 3 night comp at the luxor amount to at the venetian?
     
  5. shacktown

    shacktown URComped Casino Host

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    Good question! Venetian is mainly looking for offers from the top tier strip resorts that include free play, so a luxor offer would most likely get a casino rate discount.
     
  6. YukonSloMo

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    Tic toc the clock is running.....
     
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  7. bubbakitty

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  8. Brittpmc

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    3 nights, $300 fp at Wynn/encore, would that amount to anything?
     
  9. shacktown

    shacktown URComped Casino Host

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    Hi Britt - assuming those nights aren’t restricted to Sun-Thurs, that should get you a solid offer :)
     
  10. StuartUK

    StuartUK Low-Roller

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    Forgive for asking, but how does this work, on the flipside.........

    I am Gold with Mlife, I get the Corp offer which gives me 2 - 4 Nights in any hotel + FB + RC , and in the summer months, I get the 2 nights in Bellegio/Aria/Delano with RC+FB, and 3 nights in the others (mix of suites + RC+FB) + hotel specific offers too (MC + 3nts suite+$250FB+$175RC I currently got booked for Mem wkend)

    If I stay, and don't play, all I do is damage my rep with the hotel + mlife.... However, I like to win monies, and enjoy gambling, so I play anyway ! :) :)
    Last year tax stats show I did an average coin-in of $2500 on slots per day, and as BlackJack/3cd poker never records good stats, that was anything from $500 - $3000 coin-in over many tables (I switch when tables are cold).... or another way, I'm rated on an average $60hand (low roller I guess).....

    If Urcomped got me a 2 or 3 night deal with Ven/Pal , I'm gonna spend some money anyway...... but what if they record on the players card, that I only I only did $1k Slots coin-in per day and $1k BlackJack coin-in per day ?
    Because the theo loss is less than the room value, would it mean at check-out time, they say "sorry, you didn't spend enough, so heres your bill for $800 for your comped room" ?

    I guess, I'm asking the "what if" scenario.... Being truthful, I play for comp's, and I spend my money where I sleep (in Vegas that is! :D :D :D ) , so using hosts & mlife offers = we come to vegas.....
    I tried the Cosmo offer 2 years ago, but heavy losses over 3nights snared us from going back there.... (although the comp offer as you can see on this forum was the Cosmo taking a gamble on new players, whether they played or not, but basing on offers players receive from other hotels).........

    I have signed up with you guys, and keen to move my ratio away from Mlife hotels when we hit Vegas..... I like a gamble, I like surprises....... don't like hidden surprises though ! :D
     
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    sucks for me I guess. I have not been to the strip for years, but I have been looking for a good offer to get me back to the strip. and of course no offers come my way because I have not been to the strip in years.
    all of my free room / comp offers are downtown and Orleans / GC.
     
  12. shacktown

    shacktown URComped Casino Host

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    Hi Stuart! Great question. Venetian does put in their terms that they reserve the right to reverse the comp if a new player coming in on this offer match promo does not meet play expectations of ~4 hours per day. We send a lot of players and I have only seen a comp reversed a couple times and that was when a player totally misrepresented themselves and/or barely played at all.

    After the first trip to Venetian, you'll get the normal marketing offers and can book without having to worry about comps being reversed, but for the first trip, you would definitely want to concentrate your play at V/P. Or book one of your MLife offers and not feel pressure at all.

    Here's a calculator that shows a rough estimate of play expectations for a three-night stay for new players coming in on this top-tier offer match promotion. Not hitting the target doesn't necessarily mean the comp will be reversed (obviously quick losses can cut into time played), but if play target is out of the comfort zone, then it is probably not worth going for the promotion and feeling stressed during the trip.

    Hope this helps! (and Good Luck on the Memorial Day Vegas trip!!)

    Craig

     
  13. Chuck2009x

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    URComped's calculators are fair. Their calc of coin in for a 3 night stay at V/P is about $12,500, which is about what V/P will expect. Around $4,000/night.

    V/P is an odd duck in that their marketing staff love to quote play requirements in terms of time and average bet instead of coin in.

    I'll just say two things in response to @StuartUK:
    • $2,500/night coin in on slots is at the bottom range of what V/P will take, but it should be enough to cover the room at casino rate, so I doubt they would bill you, although they probably reserve the right to do so. You wouldn't be very profitable to them at that level though, so I don't know what you would get for offers going forward. That $2,500 "coin-in" counts only slot play. BJ at $60/hand is only going to minimally contribute to your theo. If you want to "play to the comp" at V/P, you should consider any BJ play as being on top of the $2,500 coin in, not as a substitute for much of it.
    • V/Ps theo on slots is high. It's easy to calculate because they do their point system based on it. A penny Simpsons slot was set at 14.5% hold, that's not really high for a penny slot, it's pretty reasonable actually. But a $1 / $5 Double Diamond 3 reel machine read out as 12.5% at both denominations. That's high. It's one reason why you can get away with playing $4k-ish a day and get decent offers even as the marketing staff is quoting you average bets and time that would amount to closer to $6k.
     
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  14. shacktown

    shacktown URComped Casino Host

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    Very well said and well thought out, Chuck. Thank you as always sir!

     
  15. StuartUK

    StuartUK Low-Roller

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    cheers for info, was just curious! :)
    I play slots, and tables, with an average 5 - 6hrs per day...
    I'll get onto you guys, but i'll ask about the Rio rather than V/P :) :)
     
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  16. LV_Bound

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    My wife opened an URComped account and uploaded an offer but then we saw the above.
    We don't tend to venture down to that end of the strip and when we do, we play at Venetian only when passing through and usually not much at all.
    Since we don't get to that portion of the strip, our objective was to spend our next trip in that area.
    Unfortunately, our last time passing through was probably within the past 12 months. Is this going to negate any offers from Venetian or other hotels in that area ? (fyi, Venetian would be our preferred option)
     
  17. shacktown

    shacktown URComped Casino Host

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    Hi @LV_Bound - Good question :) most of the time the casinos we work with will base offers off play history at their casino. Their “first hand” experience with a player.
    However, if it’s clear that your previous play was just quick walk-in play and the other offers you upload look solid, Venetian may still extend an offer.
    A couple things would help increase the odds of an offer even if you have play history:
    - if the play history was short time but high average bet. That’s the pattern of a big player that was just passing through
    - if you are setting up a credit line or front money for $10k+.

    No mater what, doesn’t hurt to ask. Let’s see what they offer :) If you have any questions during the process feel free to PM me. Thank you (and your wife!) for trying us out!!
    -Craig
     
  18. LV_Bound

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    Thanks for the quick response. ;)
     
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  19. Mr. Elite

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    I recently returned from a trip to The Palazzo that Craig @shacktown had setup for me. This is my third trip with Craig and URComped and I highly recommend Craig and his services. The level of customer service and attention to detail that Craig provides for his players is second to none.

    I had a great time at The Palazzo and I look forward to staying there again, the comps that I received for my play was in line with my expectations. Craig setup the upfront offer for three nights at The Palazzo and all of my charges were comped on the back end based on my play.

    Mr. Elite
     
  20. shacktown

    shacktown URComped Casino Host

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    So glad that you enjoyed the trip, Mr. Elite!! ..and thank you very much for the kind words. It is a pleasure to serve you sir :)
     
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