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Circa Restaurants

Discussion in 'Restaurants & Buffets' started by KCSCOTT, Oct 26, 2020.

  1. KCSCOTT

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    I just saw the menus posted on their website and it seems they are charging prices that are more typical of the Strip. At Saginaw Deli a sandwich a bowl of soup and a drink is about $40 per person with tax and tip. I hope they have really superb food so it will be worth it!
     
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    Wow, that is Strip pricing, but I think that they are trying to target the higher end downtown player, and not the value oriented spender
     
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    Check this out......if the whole pig :blink: is the choice, it comes with “sparklers”.
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    :eek:the whole world is upside down:confused:
     
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    While I don't have an issue paying for food, specifically steaks, I'm just fundamentally opposed to paying this much for a deli sandwich, and I don't care where it's at. Las Vegas, San Francisco, NYC. It doesn't matter. Except there is a concentration of population, and within that concentration there are people that will pay this for a sandwich. Whether they can afford this or not I guess is a personal question, but from an economic and personal finance perspective, I have my doubts. Same as gambling I guess.
     
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    Honestly, the only thing I'm taking away from this is "Fried Zucchini with Tzatziki". That's sounds fantastic!
     
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    Just scanned over 5 menus and these places are definitely not aimed at me.
     
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    This is super dependent on the quality and quantity of the sandwich. Jewish delis are sometimes comical about their large portioning. We have one of the better Jewish Delis in the US here in Houston - Kenny & Ziggy's. Sandwiches (with a small side of potato salad/mac salad/cole slaw) are $17-25, Soup is $11, Drinks $3. Taking the high end of my sandwich range, that's $40. Here's the thing - that sandwich soup combo can feed 2 hungry people comfortably. This experience is consistent - in price and size - with what I've eaten in NYC's Jewish delis. The other catch is that everything is home-made from ingredients that an average person can name. Real food processed by people's hands is more expensive to produce.

    So if Saginaw's sandwiches are similar in size and similar in quality, then the value isn't terrible - $20/pp for a homemade pastrami sandwich on good rye bread and soup where the broth was made from chicken bones and vegetables that are recognizable.

    That said... I don't know if downtown is the market for this or if now is the time to be hawking $20 sammy/soup combos. This is definitely a nod to try to get the people downtown to spend a little more, and 2 years ago I think this would have been pretty brilliant. With all this going on, it's definitely going to struggle in this market for a few years.

    Looking at the promo shots on Circa's website... Those are some small sammies for $20+.
     
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    If the quality is great....cost is not the issue.
     
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    The $299 a night rooms is a good indicator that I will not be doing much here but maybe some gambling if that.
     
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    It would be great if Circa is a hit. Derek has had good instincts so far. But he sure is banking on Circa to spark a downtown revival well beyond what has occurred in the past few years. And that has to be built largely on the assumption he's going to move people from the strip. The guy's got stones. I wouldn't be counting on that.
     
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    “Build it and they will come.” I thought the target audience would be willing to go to the SLS. They were not.

    There is an audience for Circa. I doubt they are willing to go downtown (more than once) but I have been wrong before...
     
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    I'm a downtowner for a reason.
    If I'm to pay $40 for a sandwich it had better come with $30 in free play!
     
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    I fear they have achieved their first objective; they didn’t desire the likes of you :) or I :blink: in their :feedme: establishment and as you say, without the 30$ freeplay, they have succeeded quite handily. :eek:
     
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    Just looked over the restaurant selection... I can't say I'm impressed by most of the restaurants. Barry's looks pretty awesome though. Between the atmosphere and the menu, I will definitely go out of my way to go there for dinner one night.

    As I learn more and more about Circa I become confident that it will likely not be a "home base" for me (though that's not to say I won't try staying there at least once). But I am very confident that the restaurants, pool, and amenities will bring me in pretty regularly.
     
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    I make my own pastrami about once a year and it is a ridiculously complicated and expensive process (which is why I don't do it more often). If I were to sell it, I couldn't do it for less than about $30 a pound for the deli meat. I buy a 20 lb brisket from Costco for about $4/lb, and after the brining, soaking, smoking, and steaming process, which takes a total of about 3 weeks, I am left with about 7 lb of edible pastrami. So that is $12/lb just for the raw meat alone. And that's with brisket; they may use navel which is next to the brisket and probably more expensive. (I have no idea where to buy a navel; I've never seen it in a butcher shop.) Adding in the other materials costs and the value of production labor of pastrami, plus the cost of operating a full-service restaurant itself, it really adds up.

    Meanwhile a proper deli sandwich contains about 1/2 to 1 lb of meat. I can't speak to Zingerman's.
    This is the main reason that so many Jewish style deli restaurants have gone out of business. In the book Save the Deli, the proprietor of Katz's in NYC said the true economic cost, including the cost of real estate, to produce a pastrami sandwich was about $45, and that book was written about 10 years ago. Restaurant costs have gone up significantly since then, and beef especially has increased since the pandemic started because several meat processing plants have had infestations.
     
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    Which probably makes it a small part of the menu unless dedicated to such fare on vacation.
    And no judgement as I like beers people say they can buy a 6-pack of Bud for one & 1/2 beers I like. :rolleyes: I Do get it. Just not getting one. :cool:
     
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    If we happen to have overlapping Vegas trips at a time shortly after you make a batch of pastrami, I’ll happily buy a pound or so from you if you’d be willing to and/or able to safely bring it.
     
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    From all indications, the Circa seems to be targeting the high rollers with their current pricing structure. Maybe that will change down the road, but I guess there is always The D and Golden Gate for us minnows. LOL

    I still plan to visit Circa when I return to Vegas, but when I can get free rooms at other properties, I can't see myself paying those room rates, the same with dining expenses. I don't mind dining at high-end restaurants occasionally, but the quality of the food, service, etc. has to be excellent to warrant strip pricing.
     
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    I'll let you know! I will probably make some next summer for my son's bar mitzvah if not sooner. I freeze it so it can travel. But you will need to either keep it frozen in a cooler or refrigerator until you get it home, or you could get a crock pot and steam it and eat it in your hotel room.

    However. It might be easier to just go to Snowdons or Schwartz next time you are in Montreal.
     
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  20. 3OfDiamonds

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    *looks up prices at famous-ish local deli*

    $40 is fairly reasonable tbh, especially when considering points/comp dollars/F&B usage :hmmm:
     
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