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Table Games Circa already taking out second floor table games

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by hail2skins, Aug 25, 2021.

  1. hail2skins

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    The grand experiment.. Strip casino on Fremont..

    Frugal Vegas Vs Derek

    First round goes to Frugal Vegas.
     
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    Some guy's Twitter response:

    "Maybe if table minimums weren’t so high they’d have an easier time filling them…"

    What are/were the minimums there?
     
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    Not surprised. Splitting up the casino floor is a cardinal no-no. Cosmo originally wanted to do that before they were talked out of it. They sometimes stuck a couple blackjack tables outside Marquee on busy nights, but that's it.
     
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    He I saw that too, when I went in Feb they were $10/$15 during the day for craps and then $15/$25 in evening - in May that all bumped one unit. Sounds like its mainly $15/$25 all the time now.

    The upstairs tables were never used when I was there and although I'm a tables player primarily to me it was definitely a lot of wasted space. Not surprised at all by this decision.

    Wouldn't it be amazing if they brought out an old Sigma Derby and put it there? It won't happen - probably one of those Fortune Cup ones instead.
     
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    how many tables do the D and the Cal have upstairs?
     
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    As much as it sucks that these machines take away a dealer position, it really looks like the demand is there. They can offer lower table minimums and they can rate players/earn points more accurately.

    You're right about that. They have a hard enough time maintaining the one that they do have at the D and it's constantly out of service.
     
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    Problem is that I've heard it's essentially impossible to find parts for them. If something breaks (which is much more common with physical devices like that, versus machines), you basically have to throw it out.
     
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    Do the ETGs at Circa earn points? The video blackjack machines at the D did not.
     
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    We were in Circa early evening on July 3rd. 2 BJ tables that were $15 were packed. All the other tables upstairs and down were $25 and almost empty. My daughter asked a pit boss if he would let us play for $15 min. He said that would make a lot of sense but it wasn't up to him. The other casinos were very busy that night. I realize this is very circumstantial but in 3 trips since opening it has been less crowded each time.
     
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    Dang, those are Strip minimums... no wonder they're not getting much action.
     
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    Not surprising, really. It's a worthy experiment to bring a strip style casino downtown. When I was there at the beginning of summer, mid-week, the place was dead. I felt like I had the whole place to myself. Meanwhile, The Cal was packed. Every other casino I visited was busy. Circa was quiet and empty.

    While downtown people go to the strip and strip people go downtown, I think its a difficult task to create an experience that would make a strip person want to stay downtown and vice versa. I think Circa's happy place will be a large, quiet, well kept casino with downtown minimums. I should probably send Derek an email with my thoughts, I bet he'd appreciate that...
     
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    ^^This

    I was told by one of the cocktail waitresses that the D's Sigma was essentially the only working one on the planet, and it was held together by the remaining parts of the other Sigma machines. There's a local company that maintains it, but they don't come out for small fixes and they fabricate a lot of what they fix.

    I'm not sure how true that is, but that seems to be what people who work there believe. Sigma Derby is fun, but it's also a bit chaotic. I lost $5 in quarters by preloading them. My station locked and wouldn't allow any betting or cash outs. Just part of the fun I guess lol. That $5 didn't dissuade me from future play, I'll just drop quarters as I go next time. :)

    Putting another classic machine in those spaces would be great though.
     
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    They also worked to drive up the minimums around Fremont, unfortunately.
     
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    Don’t think tables up stairs are the problem. Frugal Fremont isn’t going to stomach 25 craps nor blackjack.. Every time I been in Circa it’s dead.. Each Saturday night I have been there I have had a blackjack table to myself.. for hours.. I have posted pictures of craps tables just sitting idol.. Lots of people have extra income right now.. when that is gone.. Circa is in trouble..
     
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    If downtown, particularly Derek's places, are offering 3/2 blackjack for say $15, they can still claim they are a better value than the Strip.

    Craps is a different story. Can't you still find $15 craps somewhat easily on the Strip? But it seems like most of the downtown casinos are at $15 craps, with a few at $10, depending on time of day.
     
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    i noticed that all casinos including Circa are pushing higher minimums on all the tables. what they may also consider is lowering the booming music, highly distracting especially on the tables.
     
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    Really? I've not played them but I always assumed they did. I know the blackjack at my local CET properties earn points.
     
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    Stevens may have to reimagine the game plan if the bodies aren't rolling in. When he was building the place, I wondered if revenue would cover the nut. Are Stadium Swim and the Sportsbook pulling in the numbers to justify the space? Only time will tell.
     
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    I'll get it if the $5 blackjack tables don't come back to Fremont... but $5 craps almost certainly will.
     
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