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Video Poker CET Bartop VP

Discussion in 'Video Poker' started by fasbman, May 3, 2021.

  1. fasbman

    fasbman High-Roller

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    Now, everyone knows that Bartop VP has some terrible pay tables. However, at both Paris and PH in Vegas, they truly have a bizarre one. For Bonus VP, the schedule is 30/6/5 for ALL 4OAK, FH and flushes. The weird thing is that for regular JOB, it’s 25/6/5 for the same hands. This is on the same machine! I guess that the JOB pay table is for only certified masochists who want to make sure they play the worst possible pay tables. However, knowing CET, they probably included this pay table, since their customers demanded it!
     
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  2. Not at the table Carlos

    Not at the table Carlos Cheapskate

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    This has been the case for years at all CET bartops
     
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  3. Not at the table Carlos

    Not at the table Carlos Cheapskate

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    And it’s worse watching someone play JOB at Vue Bar at The D. 25/7/5 for quads/FH/flush and BP is 8/5....AND the quads are progressives.
     
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  4. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Yeah. And when I am reading a live TR and I see someone playing 6/5 JoB at a CET bar, I always tell them to play Bonus instead.

    It's been this way at most CET strip bars since Spring 2015 sadly. Somehow my favorite CET bar ever (TAG...RIP) was initially overlooked and didn't have these poor paytables until Nov. 2017.

    These are the typical single line paytables at strip CET bars for all denominations.

    30/6/5 Bonus (96.18%)
    7/5 DDB (95.71%)
    20/5/4/3/2/1 Joker (95.46%)
    6/5 Bonus Deluxe (95.36%)
    10/6/4/2/2/1 ACE$ Bonus (95.36%)
    6/5 JoB (95.00%) ***redundant always play Bonus over this***
    7/5 TDB (94.92%)
    25/15/10/4/3/2 Deuces (94.82%)
    8/5/4 Double Bonus (94.18%)

    Now personally I would always try to play on an All Star II, so I can play one line of 6/5 Bonus w/STP (97.14%).
     
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  5. bubbakitty

    bubbakitty Doing retirement again and happily so....

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    You’d think they’d be serving top shelf liquor for such cooperation. But apparently they didn’t get the message.
     
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  6. Not at the table Carlos

    Not at the table Carlos Cheapskate

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    Was a great bar
     
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  7. dankyone

    dankyone VIP Whale

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    Bad enough those are the paytables on quarters. Now for $1, or $2...or more...that is truly insulting.

    Don't want to play? A premium cocktail is now $21, we don't want to cater to those voucher people here, we want players!
     
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  8. alexm

    alexm VIP Whale

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    @dankyone the reality is, the properties don't really want players at the bar, they want people paying for cocktails. If you figure a drink every 20 minutes, a paying customer generates 63 dollars for the cocktails, a quarter video poker player taking up that seat and playing 30/6/5 bonus, generates 28.65 per hour playing 600 hands per hour, and will be offered a drink at least every 20 minutes (usually) 15.

    I agree with you, the pay tables should start to improve at $1 and 2$, but the problem is most people who complain, aren't taking into consideration the theoretical, they are working off of their specific experience (hence the $100 coffee). I think properties are stuck between a place where they have to make sure gamblers get most of they are accustomed to (Bartop VP) while also making sure that the non-gamblers (who are the current revenue drivers in LV) can get to spend their money.
     
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  9. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Especially on the strip, this is definitely true. The retail prices of drinks are significant money makers just by themselves.