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Calling All MLife Noir Players

Discussion in 'Comps' started by DAS4413, May 15, 2019.

  1. DAS4413

    DAS4413 Low-Roller

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    A buddy of mine two years ago made one million points and then last year he made two million. He's on his way to making another two million this year. He's strictly a video poker player and goes several times a year. An employee at the slot club last year noticed that he had two million points, and told him that he should have the Noir card. His host, however, has not put him forward for the Noir card for the past two years, and actually told him that if he gets two million again this year, he would recommend him for it. Does this sound kosher? I'm just wondering if this is correct. Are there separate hosts for the Noir players or would he keep the same host? What are some of the added perks at that level? He always tells me that he gets three comp nights through his host, and if he wants a fourth comp night, his play would have to be reviewed for that. I get three to four comp nights at several locations and I am no high roller by any means. He's not one to push the subject, and I feel like he's getting taken advantage of by his host. Any thoughts about this would be appreciated.
     
  2. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Wait...2 million points as in 20 million tier credits??? (AKA 20 million dollars coin in per year)

    If that's the case, definitely should be Noir.
     
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  3. DAS4413

    DAS4413 Low-Roller

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    He made 2 MILLION tier points. You just need 1 million tier points for NOIR.
     
  4. Kachow

    Kachow Low-Roller

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    If this is accurate, He should take his play somewhere else or request a new host.
     
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  5. Robertb1

    Robertb1 Low-Roller

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    Parents are noir. They said that noir used to be only 1 million tier credits many years back, but that later changed to an “invitation only” thing with no clear threshhold of TC (unlike 7 star at CET). Maybe around 2011/2012 I think?

    My parents and uncle are primarily slot players. Just after the noir requirement changes, they were told that 2-3 million TC was the new approximate threshhold to reach before getting recommended for noir again.

    Maybe with VP there are higher requirements? That said, having to wait for review before getting a fourth night comped at that level of play is ridiculous. He should ask for a new host.
     
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  6. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    Which property? Or multiple?

    I would talk to a host at a different property and let them know you are going to move to XXX casino since Mlife does not value them enough.

    I really do not understand why they do not give this to more folks. The cost to MGM is almost nothing compared to what THEY get back in continued play. Maybe I am slow, but this is stupid of them to make it so difficult.

    (back when I played heavier, I was Noir for one or two years, then no "invite". It appeared that each casino, or host could only do so many.
     
  7. DaiLun

    DaiLun R.C., L.C., and A.A.N.G.

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    Well, IMHO, this isn't really true. It has always been published that Noir is "by invitation only", and although 1M TC has always been the rumored amount, no one (except for mLife) really knows what the criteria is.
     
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  8. Drewm1972

    Drewm1972 VIP Whale

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    Im a noir player ; became early this year, my understanding is to be Noir, points system doesn’t really apply ; basically have to lose your ass off :bang::bang::bang::bang::bang: I heard $100k+ Theo lost in yearly. I became Noir outside of Vegas Mgm owned property here local point system is totally different then Vegas. Btw, I mainly play table games only - last year I was in Vegas and easily gained one million points playing table (but again this doesn’t mean anything, since they changed it to invitation only)

    Btw, platinum and noir there isn't much of difference local mgm used to pick me up and drop service when I was platinum and offered pretty much anything I asked for (again, I’m a table player not a slot)
     
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  9. VegasBJ

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    Besides being invitation only now, I don't think they go by tier points at all any longer - this was the old way they did it. Now the "unofficial" standard is $100k theo in a year. Yes, big losses also help, but losses alone won't get you Noir ( although heavy losses may also get you to the $100k theo level).

    As stated above, there really is no beneift difference between Platinum and Noir. Tier points are easy to rack up, so tier points alone are not a standard, especially when the points are garnered on a low HA game like VP. High tier points / low theo may be a reason they have not been offered Noir yet.

    Most of the Noir players I know are heavy players, so I don't think they are giving out this card lightly. I have not seen a player with a Noir card where I was wondering "how did they get that?"

    Anyway, I have been Noir since they started this level, and I really do not see what difference it makes what card color you have. My host takes care of all my arrangements, so this has nothing to do with what card level I am at. I think CET definiely runs it differently for their upper tier players.

    Edit - the one thing Noir does get you is if you go up to a restaurant without a reservation, and they are full, you can pull out your Noir card and get seated first available. So, restaurant reservations get priority
     
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  10. UKFanatic

    UKFanatic The Arbiter of Taste Caviar Kid

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    @VegasBJ is correct in everything he says. As someone who was Noir for years, but only Platinum the past two years, I will add that it has not changed my experience at all. I still get all the same things I did when I was noir. Its more about the relationship with the host. If you have a host that is taking care of you, you won't notice any difference
     
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  11. sinnerman

    sinnerman Low-Roller

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    I have heard from multiple friends who are Noir that, more and more, MGM looks at theo loss and actual loss as opposed to just tier points. So if your friend is a very savvy VP player who is great at picking his machines, it's possible his actual loss is low enough that he didn't get the invite. Or his host is a jerk. Its hard to tell.

    That being said, I would tell your friend not to worry too much about the card status. Other than restaurant reservation and taxi line skipping, Noir barely has anything worthwhile (compared to platinum).

    In terms of being taken advantage of by the host, ask your friend to focus more on his theo and how much he is getting back in comps. If he is in the 20% range (of total comps recieved as compared to his trip theo), then he is being taken advantage of. If he is around 25% to 33%, then that is ok (especially if he is closer to 33%). If he is at 40% and above, then his host is being very generous with him.
     
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  12. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    And, as stated, but needs to be repeated often.

    Card level does not get comps, etc.

    You get rooms, meals, limos, drinks, tickets, etc based on play. Color of card does not matter.
     
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  13. tonysb8

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    Totally agree. I’d like to add, more and more it seems lately it’s all based solely off of losses. Play, theo, etc. doesn’t seem to matter as much. You show heavy play and lose your ass, that’ll get you “comps”. What’s the card color get you anymore? Special line at a buffet, which normally isn’t staffed when you want to take advantage of it lol
     
  14. JeJas

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    2M tier points playing VP, it's not even remotely close to Noir.
     
  15. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Agreed. His host would be doing him a big favor if he could get him Noir.