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Caesars properties will start checking all "Room Occupied" rooms daily

Discussion in 'LV Strip Hotels' started by Ken, Feb 16, 2018.

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  1. bubbakitty

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  2. Sonya

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    I'm not a fan of this plan as I typically leave my DND on the whole trip as I'm a solo and know how to hang up a towel and make a bed. However, I'm going to hold judgement until my trip and see how this plays out. I usually an up late and sleep until lunchtime. A door knock at 9am would not result in a happy Sonya answering the door. Maybe I'll just put the Service Requested sign or let housekeeping know I'm out of the room when I do wander downstairs to get some food. I plan to ask about it at check in and see if they have a specific policy of if, as I expect, left hand doesn't know what right hand is doing.
     
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  3. Ruark

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    Wouldn't work. The bad guy, like this one did, could haul weapons into the room after checking in. There are only two ways to prevent this, neither of which is feasible:

    1. Walk people through a metal detector EVERY time they go to their rooms.
    2. Completely - every drawer, every suitcase, every room safe - search every room at least once a day (that'd be fun, with some places having 5,000 rooms!).

    In any case, this practice of ignoring a DND door card is something else I'll be checking on before booking a hotel in the future.
     
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  4. dmr

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    The thing is, if they have a daily check, you know that if you want to do Really Bad Things (tm) you have 24 hours to get the Bad Things (tm) up there and do your Really Bad Things.

    If you're at Boyd, you know that you have 48 hours to get your Bad Things up there and do your Really Bad Things.

    Now I can see how having that guard at the elevator, looking at you and bags and such and (at least spot) checking things like golf bags, would be a deterrent to someone sneaking Bad Things up to the room.

    It has not happened to me yet, but I do know that I would be majorly p*ssed if a guard knocked on the door as I was getting ready in the morning, taking a power nap in early afternoon, or trying to sleep at night.
     
  5. makikiboy

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    I agree. Like TSA IMHO this is just another "feel good" attempt to make guests feel more secure.

    I stayed at MSS and their problem is that security leaves his station regularly so it is easy to just wait by the front desk and wait for him to leave (usually about once an hour or every other hour). The Cal is even worse, for the west tower you can take the escalator up to the 2nd floor where there are no guards to check you. Or even better, just enter through MSS, take the small elevator on the south side to the 2nd floor, walk the promenade to the Cal west tower elevators. You can also do this at the Plaza, go up to the 2nd or 3rd floor and go up both towers that way.

    And like Joe mentioned, most casinos don't scan card keys and it's easy on the net to pick up old keys so no real security to prevent someone from going upstairs.

    As for safety room checks, as someone else mentioned, you could easily store/hide weapons in the drawers and closets. I don't think the maids or security will go through your belongings just to check for weapons. Maybe you can't hide hundreds of rounds but you can store a lot in the drawers, closet and the fridge.


    In January I didn't check to see what happened every 2nd day, I usually just requested maid service every other day and packed up any valuables in the safe and suitcases. Yes, if I was up all night I would also be pissed to get a knock on my door for a "safety and wellness check".
     
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  6. leo21

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    This policy is based on the assumption that the shooter had a DND on his door the whole time and that if hotel staff had been in the room, they would have seen the guns. All of this has been proven not to be true. The talking heads on TV were shocked that someone could get guns into the hotel but since they know nothing about it, they were throwing up ideas about what the hotel should have done.Now the hotels are responding by taking actions based on what the folks on TV think.

    These checks will probably save the hotel some property damage but won't stop a motivated assailant. I won't feel safer with them for one. I would rather the whole town put all their energy into putting the pedestrian barricades up and looking into preventing the violence more people are likely to experience like getting punched by a drunk a-hole. The policy won't affect me much as I get daily room service and some of the hotels had policies that allow them to check rooms buried in the fine print. I just don't want all the eggs in a questionable basket.
     
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    A quick scan of some of the replies here, and I thought we were on Yahoo!
     
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    Well, it certainly sounds like the Caesars properties will be doing daily room checks whether you have the Do Not Disturb sign up or not since they don't want to put the security check responsibility on housekeeping. Therefore, chances are very good that they'll knock on your door in the morning when you're getting ready or in the afternoon when you're taking a power nap. I doubt they'll do these checks at night but nevertheless, their new security measures are a terrible idea.

    Just put metal detectors at the elevators to prevent people from bringing weapons to their rooms. Problem solved. Oh, and then you could rest peacefully in your room without security doing some worthless check in the morning. Seems simple enough but apparently the people in charge have no clue.
     
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    getting punched by a drunk a-hole, one person. Getting a guy in a room with a crap load of guns, a crap load of killed/hurt people.
     
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    It costs the hotel money to do the checks. We pay for that.
    It disturbs people that want to sleep.
    It disturbs people that want to have sex.
    It fools people into false security.
    You can still EASILY bring weapons into your room and shoot up the guy taking a leak at the dumpster outside your window.

    It is one big joke.
     
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  11. shokhead

    shokhead No big spender unless eating drinking having fun!

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    Sorry, don't buy any of that.
     
  12. LB9

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    Regardless of what anyone thinks about it, it's happening. We can all complain but if it's really that bothersome, I'm sure there's still a minority of places yet to entertain this change where you can stay.

    Is it annoying? Sure, but other than taking our business elsewhere and complaining to CET nothing will happen and even then, I doubt CET will change unless it egregiously affects their bottom line. Unless I'm mistaken, we don't have a CET employee on this forum anymore taking our opinions into consideration.
     
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    Just got back from the LINQ and had my DND sign on the whole stay. On Sunday I had a knock on the door at 7:30am and on Monday at 9am. Both times I was passed out and woke up pissed off. While I understand why they do it the times they woke me up pissed me off.
     
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    7:30 and 9:00 AM are ridiculous times to be knocking on doors when people are on vacation. We usually leave the DND sign up because we don't want our rooms made up. When we need more towels, we take down the sign.
     
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    I have nothing to hide , only leave me alone to, sleep, eat candy, gamble, drink ,enjoy my special time. If you want to put TSA by the elevator we will be safer. Just do not move my stuff.
     
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    That's a big old nope from me. That will not make me happy. I guess the housekeepers will be having to do more work the week I'm in town. I'll just call housekeeping when I'm leaving my room to go get some lunch.
     
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  17. nostresshere

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    That was a joke, right?

    If not... just so you know, a DND still allows anyone to open the door.
     
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    I hope the people on this board who said these new security measures won't be a big deal read your post. I'll never stay at a Caesars property again and if the other properties on the strip operate this way - see ya Vegas. You've lost a long time customer.
     
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    As others have opined in this thread I agree that the reason for this is because of the advice of in-house counsel for these properties. IMHO, these policies do absolutely nothing except potentially protect them in the case of future litigation. Because of these new policies at CET & Boyd (anywhere else yet?) I think a lot of people will inevitably opt in for housekeeping, that normally wouldn't have, to avert the dreaded unannounced security visit (lets call it what it is, it sure as hell isn't a 'wellness' visit).

    What I find interesting is at this same time a lot of properties are offering guests the option to opt out of housekeeping by offering a small incentive. I'm cynical and old enough to believe they aren't doing this to be "green", it is simply profit motivated, which is perfectly fine. I wonder who will win this conflict of financial interests, the attorneys who are in the security check corner which will inevitably drive up housekeeping costs, or the accountants who are looking to decrease housekeeping costs??? At some point technology will win out and there will be some kind of non obtrusive scanning systems, but how long will that take?

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    I love reading how pissed everyone is going to be.

    While this plan may or may not prevent anything, I can't figure out how pissed I'd be if somebody blows my head off....
     
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