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Boyd vs. Stations

Discussion in 'Off-Strip Hotels' started by jpfromla, Sep 20, 2019.

  1. jpfromla

    jpfromla Low-Roller

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    I had the chance to recently stay at the Orleans, Gold Coast, Palace Station and Red Rock - all comped. The differences between Boyd properties and Stations is vast, and not in Boyd’s favor. Even though all four properties have had recent overhauls (GC being the longest ago) Stations was nicer, cleaner, machines were newer, and the rooms were up to date and more. Boyd is in a 1990’s time warp. There are machines at the Orleans and GC that have been there since they opened - faded light panels, outdated screens, etc. Stations machines were bright and newer. Paytables about the same. Stations rooms were fresh, bright and classy. Boyd’s were tired, even though they have been updated (40 LCD vs. Stations 55 LCD). Boyd can’t you put a power strip on the night stand at GC? Must I pull the table out to find a plug? OH...the elevators at GC are over heating, I had to take the fire escape down one morning with 30 German tourists. Food offerings seemed the same between the two. Boyd’s only advantage is their 60% change on food when using reward credits. Finally, at Stations I know what credits I get as I play VP. Time to keep playing Stations and upgrade to South Point in place of Boyd.

    Sorry Bill
     
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  2. Tru2Vegas

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    We decided to do our first non strip Vegas Vacation. Our choices in our price range was Sun Coast or South Point. In past visits to Gold Coast and Orleans, cheap water down drinks (you can tell) and low end stuff on comp drinks, old machines, dingy casino floor. Never stayed there.

    Just got back from South Point and it was just a wonderful delight!!! Glad we did not do Sun Coast for it is the Boyd Gaming.

    We are low rollers and got Ketel One all the time! At Boyd Sun Coast????

    We loved Barbary Coast too when it existed. When speaking to a Casino Host at South Point, she told us the owner of Barbary, Gold Coast, and Orleans, sold all the properties, and took all the money to build the South Point. Now Gold Coast and Orleans is Boyd. Played at both under Boyd, and its... the Boyd experience.

    We decided on South Point on a gamble, for we did not know who owns it. Now we know the history. In Bolixi we stay at the BR, and visited the IP (Boyd). Same Boyd experience, cheap low Alcohol drinks, and cost cutting everywhere you look at the IP.

    Stations is only good at Green Valley and Red Rock. However I hear The Palace has been redone and is worth a look now for playing.

    When I hear Boyd, I think, B for Bottom Out!

    Stations is only good at Green Valley and Red Rock. South Point lacks in Casino floor appeal, but it rocks, and is just overall wonderful!
     
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  3. smerrian

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    Yes, Boyd has to 'up' their game. Stations is much better in the off-Strip market.
     
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  4. Flowers

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    I am a Wynncore woman, RFB, but am a big Stations fan. I do a quick 7 minute trip (via Lyft, Palace Station shuttle or rental car) from Encore to Palace almost every trip. I typically double book offers so have seen Palace Station rooms recently.

    The Palace Station renovation of the entire property was significant and extremely well done. Many visits later I continue to be impressed. It's a higher end property but ditto re the Palms. I think Palace and Palms are two very good Stations options for VMBers who like to be near the strip.
     
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  5. jpfromla

    jpfromla Low-Roller

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    I can help here here. Micheal Gaughan own all the Coast Casinos/Orleans in the 90’s. He merged with Boyd in the 2000’s. He was building South Coast/Point at the time. Gaughan unmerged in 2005 and got the South Point for himself (probably debt free). The Coast properties of the 90’s were nice, solid choices, after he left Boyd has slowly got dumber and cheaper. Boyd of the 90’s meant good comps, good food, good play, cheap drinks that were small, now - so so comps, so so food (no specials - Denny prices now), lousy slot club and the same cheap, small drinks.

    B Connected
    B Played
    B Conned
    B Bottom Out
    B Done

    Stardust since 1990.... and yes the Palace Station is worth the look.
     
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    You forget the Palms is Stations and very nice also.

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  7. jpfromla

    jpfromla Low-Roller

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    Correct...but to get comp there takes more work vs. PS.
     
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    Based on the properties and the players card program, I personally prefer Stations. Just my view, but I feel like Boyd has lost their way a bit in a few regards. Obviously everyone will have their own view though. Ultimately if I like the property then I'll visit there, because as a low-roller/occasional visitor, I'll never be much of a receiver of comps anyway. In that regard, I find it liberating not to feel tied to one group just so I can try and get more points or comps. Ultimately my view is that anytime they give me back a dollar, it's because they've already made several from me and banked them.
     
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    Comparing the two that are supposed to be "locals," how do you think out-of-town guests are treated by each? I was Sapphire with Boyd eons ago and back when it meant something, but I'm really interested in Station's properties. Anybody have an opinion or experience with both and is from out-of-town?
     
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    I am are familiar with both and are from LA. We’ve been comped at both for many years. I feel they were fairly equal until Boyd made changes to its slot club a year ago. Stations properties - red rock, Green Valley Ranch, palms, palace station and feel fresh and new. The Orleans, gold coast just feel more tired.
     
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  11. AyDee

    AyDee is getting too old for this

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    There is a giant horse statue and Boyd memorabilia in a wing by some entrance to the casino, I didn't get to that point in the book yet, but he had some moment in the history of the place, as @jpfromla mentioned.
    (spoiler alert, the book is starting like he was a slick murdering crook)

    We are really digging South Point though, we'll see if it lasts.
     
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    Tee, we are big Stations fans (RR, GVR and occasionally Sunset) and are from the east coast. IMHO, Stations casinos are far superior to Boyd but we do like Suncoast. We've been staying at RR or GVR since they opened and go 3-4x/year. We're not high rollers by any means but we do get three free nights but very little free play and resort credit. They're pretty stingy with comps-we get much better comps at MLife than at Stations but we still go there because we like the casinos, food choices (their buffets are good for the money), pools and rooms. We've never stayed at Palms (I don't like the casino) or Palace Station so I can't comment on those but we've stayed at all the rest over the years. RR and GVR are harder to get comps at but the lower tier properties (Sunset, Boulder, etc) the comps are much more generous. The only advantage to being from out of town is that your points, not tier credits, last for a year with no play as opposed to six months for locals.
     
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    I just experience Palace Station for the first time last week. Within 24h of my return to the East Coast I booked my next trip for March at Palace Station. I was so impressed with the staff, VP, table limits, other guests, mostly locals and Californians were all super friendly...looking forward to trying all the food options. May be my new home for a while.

    Got a great rate for first weekend of March Madness how could I say no!

    Made Gold in one day at Palace (is this not that hard?? I sense that...)

    Still have to check out South Point tho.
     
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    If you want to try Station's, both Red Rock and Green Valley Ranch are decent. They are huge casinos so you don't have to leave the building if you are a machine player. IMO, they still treat locals better, but not bad for out-of-towner.
    I never have any difficulty got any nights comped, and their rooms are way above Downtown.
     
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    I enjoy playing at Stations casinos but it's hard for an out of towner to get a comp from them. It's hard to even get an email saying thanks for dropping in from them. So I stay at Boyd and cheat at Stations. Considering giving South Point and Silverton a spin too.
     
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    Boyd properties are so generic.
    I can complain about them as well as anyone, but their downtown presence is just so convenient and easy. if I were going to stray I would check out Palace Station.
     
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    Fenway68 if you are a horse race bettor play $100 on the horses and you have 1000 Tier Credits and a gold card
     
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    Are you saying $100 horse bet gets me 1000 points and Gold?

    I made Gold in a day playing VP.

    Does this get me something else?? Backend room comp, he says, wishingly!
     
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    $100 in horse race bets at Station gets you 1000 Tier Credits which makes Gold and 2000 points