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Boyd lays off 25% of staff

Discussion in 'Casino Industry & Development' started by Bernie2, Jul 14, 2020.

  1. Bernie2

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  2. loonytoony

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    So sad :(

    That's almost a quarter of them
     
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  3. Michael Smith

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    Very sad. I have stayed at the Gold Coast too many times to count over the years and always felt comfortable there.
     
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    It is getting more real by the moment. When I was there early march the tone was Alfred newmans what me worry attitude. It won't come here....it's too hot, it's fake, it's the flu,.....heard from one employee at MSS today and they said the letters went out. No lets get you taken care of, but we can't have you back, rather, see ya, thanks. :blink: From someone with 23 years at MSS. Looks dire at the momemt ( edit: --should have said 23 years with Boyd....but most with MSS).
     
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  6. AyDee

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    I worry about all the friendly dealers/bartenders/slot attendants/security at MSS that I'd usually be with all night..
     
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    What's killing Boyd is Hawaii players. Hawaii gov just extended travel restrictions another month, until Sept. 1 at least. Unfortunately there is no guarantee that the restrictions won't go on longer than that so Hawaii people can't fly to vegas unless they go on 14 day quarantine when they go home. All Hawaii charters to vegas are on hold until they can figure out how to handle the quarantine restrictions. Hawaii was trying to work a deal with cvs and other chains to do virus testing in vegas for tourists but because of the shortage of testing that isn't possible right now.

    I doubt that MSS will open on Sept. 1 without the Hawaii tourists.

    Unfortunately that is one problem with catering to one group of people (Hawaii gamblers). When they stop coming Boyd loses their cash cow.
     
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    All places are hurting not just Boyds. We need a vaccine.
     
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    My friend, who is a 20+ year employee of Las Vegas Boyd got his letter yesterday. "Your position has been eliminated. Please return all uniforms and any thing else that belongs to the company."

    This person works at MSS and is Union. My expectation is the next letter he receives will say you can reapply for a job.
     
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    Last June, I did see some MSS employee's working at The Cal.
     
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    I don't doubt you, but I am surprised since MSS is Union and Cal is not. Maybe they are no longer employed at MSS and permanently moved to Cal?
     
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    It was one of the long term Slot Ladies, the Hawaiian lady, can't miss her.
    She congratulated me on my 4k royal.
     
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    @MGinCO I just found out the card scratcher people at MSS are not in a Union, so they can move back and forth.
     
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    I thinking that many of the employees let go were those working graveyard shift in the pit at Boyd properties...
     
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    Then you would be wrong. All bartenders and CWs on every shift received the letter. This part I only heard second hand...most of the dealers received the same letter.
     
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    I know a number of you here have personal relationships with employees at Boyd, but I'd like to ask that we be a little careful with the speculation aspect. Second hand information (what you're hearing from employees) can be skewed, and anything coming through them from someone else gets more risky to share as fact. I am not suggesting anyone is lying, but we all know how the old game of Telephone works, right? Please avoid speculation if possible because it creates confusion.

    I'm sorry to hear about the termination letters from Boyd. They are going out all over Las Vegas and in casinos across the country, as well as the rest of the travel industry. The virus is not kind to this industry, and the travel industry as a whole. I keep hoping we can get a vaccine for this virus by next year and return to some semblance of normalcy. That will also probably be too late for a lot of people who are losing their jobs.
     
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    This is so sad. Some Boyd employees are displaced Hawaii people that couldn't find jobs back home. So they migrated to the "9th island".

    And here in Hawaii things are not getting better. Hawaii and Nevada depend on visitors to fuel the economy. :(

    And @Joe and @MGinCO , I've seen on several occasions a MSS craps dealer working the Cal tables and vice versa. Not sure how the sister casinos worked that out. Maybe MSS has an "open shop" union agreement where the employee decides whether to join the union or not?

    My working place was a "closed shop". Working there requires union membership.
     
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    A vaccine will help but be aware of this:

    From the USA today:

    FDA says a coronavirus vaccine would have to be at least 50% effective to be approved

    "A coronavirus vaccine would need to be at least 50% more effective than a placebo in preventing or at least decreasing the severity of COVID-19 in order for the Food and Drug Administration to approve it, the agency said Tuesday."


    So even if a vaccine is created there is no guarantee that we will go back to "business as usual" in 2021.
     
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    AND no way you walk through a door and are vaccinated once the vaccine is approved. It will take time to get everyone access. Long strange road.....
     
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    First and foremost my heart goes out to the employees that have lost their jobs. For over 25 years we have been loyal Boyd clients. During that time we established relationships with many fine and dedicated employees who represented the company in a truly positive fashion.

    Within the last 18 months as most know they have alienated VP players by reducing tier points/ comps etc. We made the decision to leave them as there was no longer a reason to play thousands a year with little to no return. Let me add that we played our fair share of slots and tables but the offers were severely reduced.

    Fast forward to today’s times and think about your next or future visit to a casino. Yes most of us our loyal to one, two maybe even three companies to expand our horizons and offers.

    I see that part of the Boyd failure was due to customer alienation through greed and poor management. Let’s face it I’ve been to every Boyd property in Vegas, stayed almost all of them over the years they’re not CET, MLIFE, Cosmo type of resorts. They attempted to fashion themselves as one while forgetting who they actually were. They’re a local midline casino that used to be fair to customers and have faithful employees.

    We left them and haven’t looked back, our money was graciously accepted at the aforementioned properties. I want to close with an expression given to me many years ago while managing a retail chain in the northeast. The owner explained, “without repeat business, you have no business”. That phrase has always stayed with me and during these trying times will ring true no matter what type of business your in. Everyone please stay safe, strong and be kind to one another.
     
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