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Table Games Blackjack House Edge Calculator Wizard Of Odds

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by Ben Jammin, Jan 3, 2017.

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  1. Ben Jammin

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    http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/calculator/

    Yes, it's still there.

    Added later: Just change the payout from 3 to 2 to 6 to 5 and see what happens.

    This setup is an average Strip Game,
    6 or 8 decks,yes DAS except Aces, no RSA yes DOA, (one card only on split Aces). surrender at some casinos is allowed but not advised.
    (you really have to know when to surrender based on the dealt cards to make it effective,
    most surrender too often or at the wrong time)
    Penetration, and some would say the Savvy of the other players will affect the outcome.

    Even in a hand dealt single deck game with no DAS your odds are better and you Blackjacks are more frequent.
    El Cortez has such a game at $5 minimum.
    To get the really good odds one must travel to the high limit games in the larger Strip Casinos.
    S17 DOA RSA DAS are found there.
     
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  2. spdandpwr

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    Wow, worst case scenario, I'm seeing a house edge of only 2.19693%...that's not that bad...I always thought it was higher. So (hypothetically) if played perfect strategy for 100 hours, I'd only lose 2.19% of my money?

    Sorry, for the dumb question -- I don't regularly play BJ.
     
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    No. It means that you would theoretically lose 2.19% of every wager you make, not that percentage of your buyin. If you only buyin for ten bucks, your gonna lose that ten bucks, not twenty two cents
     
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    Yep, that's what I was trying to imply on my post. Still not that bad. Looks like I need to brush up on my BJ skills
     
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    Think about it in terms of hands per hour. For example:
    $10 per hand
    60 hands per hour

    Typical 6:5 game: $10 x 60 x 2% = $12.00 per hour expected loss
    Typical 3:2 game: $10 x 60 x 0.6% = $3.60 per hour expected loss

    6:5 BJ is still cheaper than most slots and certainly all carnival games but as long you are playing BJ, why not take the better rules?
     
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    Funny how the math works even if you don't want to travel off the beaten path too much. If your choices at a major strip property are a $10 6:5 table, or a $25 3:2 table, it boils down as follows...

    Typical 6:5 game: $10 x 60 x 2% = $12.00 per hour expected loss
    Typical 3:2 game: $25 x 60 x 0.6% = $9.00 per hour expected loss

    Of course, you need to have enough of a bankroll to handle the swings at a $25 table, or else you'll likely be broke before you have time to recover from the variance.
     
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    I explain the house edge to people by using a $10 bet. A house edge of 2.20 (rounding up the 2.19693) means you are going to lose (on average, long term, blah blah blah) .22 cents on every $10 bet.
     
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    I try to explain that to my gun shy wife who likes table games. She'd play the $10 6:5 game at the drop of a hat but would balk at $25 3:2.

    Hell compared to some $5 carnival games the $25 3:2 game is downright thrifty.

    Good BJ games are some of the best gambling values you can get even at higher limits.
     
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    I typically play double-deck, 3:2, H17... with DAS (unless I'm at a downtown Boyd property). These tables are readily available at $5 or $10 all over downtown & at Gold Coast.
    Getting an 'S17' two-deck game with DAS & RSA is, for my purposes, out of my price range.
    So, no - you won't find me in any Strip HL rooms anytime soon... unless they want to let me play for $25/hand... and that will only happen if one of the VMB high-rollers invites me & they convince the pit to let me play at the lower minimum. :whistle:
     
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    I get it.

    But, if you sat down with $100 at the $25 table, and lost the next 4 hands, you would be done.
    If playing at $10 a hand, you have to bust out 10 times.

    Not to take away from the obvious problem with 6:5.

    Damned risk of ruin is why many times you walk away with now appears to a house edge of 100%. LOL
     
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    I hope you do what I do. We stay at MSS all the time. Every time I sit down at their regular blackjack table, and get a DAS opportunity, I put another bet out there knowing full well what will happen. They, of course, say you can't do that here. I will then make a big stink, asking for the pit guy, most of them know us all by now, and bitch about it. One of the guys, that we know well now, will even say, "yes, (my name), we know. The rule sucks." lol
     
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