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Best room for newbie limit game

Discussion in 'The Poker Room' started by Southpaw33, Aug 22, 2018.

  1. Southpaw33

    Southpaw33 Low-Roller

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    Hi, I play table games and have played some home game hold em' but not in the casino in a limit game. What are your opinions on an easy place to start. Something like a 2/4 game? Maybe Flamingo? Thanks!
     
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  2. rallen

    rallen Tourist

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    I played 2/4 limit hold'em at the Flamingo in July. Nice atmosphere, easy-going, drinks service was frequent. I would consider it appropriate for a beginner.
     
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  3. drfishalot

    drfishalot Low-Roller

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    haven't played at many places but I like the orleans
     
  4. bubbakitty

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    2nd the Orleans. Lots of local but lots of roomy tables. It 2/4.
     
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    Tarstarkas Low-Roller

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    2nd the Flamingo......friendly, competent dealers, good drink service, nice atmosphere
     
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    Was also going to suggest Mirage in addition to Flamingo. Easy walk if you start at one and want to switch to try a different table/crowd.
     
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    Flamingo is a fun room but dont plan on making money anywhere at 2/4 unless you're lucky, the rake is very high for a small pot game.

    Flamingo
    Orleans
    Mirage
    Golden Nugget
    Sam's Town
    Excalibur
     
  8. Southpaw33

    Southpaw33 Low-Roller

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    Would 4/8 be a lot better?
     
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    I like 4/8 but it's totally different than 2/4, be prepared to shell out $12- 20$ preflop if you like your hand. Then again on flop etc etc. A good run in 4/8 can net you several.hundred in a short time
     
  10. spicole

    spicole No shirt, no shoes... NO DICE!

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    Where are you staying?

    The Flamingo $2/4 game will be an easy way to break the ice.
     
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  11. Southpaw33

    Southpaw33 Low-Roller

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    Any Caesars property. Usually Cromwell, Caesars or Bally’s.
     
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    spicole No shirt, no shoes... NO DICE!

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    Since all three of those places are close, then I suggest starting withe the Flamingo game. Bump it up to $4/8 if you can afford it and it's running.


    I just checked my Bravo poker app. Mirage spreads $3/6 but no limit games are happening right now.
    Flamingo has three $2/4 games going and two $1/2 NL games.
    Excalibur still has their crazy $2-6 spread limit game going.
     
  13. Southpaw33

    Southpaw33 Low-Roller

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    Thanks! I’ll be there this sun-wed and the following sun-tues.
     
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    The Excalibur 2-6 spread limit game is great fun with good drink service.
     
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  15. buhler26

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    If you venture downtown, I played a nice, easy 2-4 game at the Golden Nugget on Tuesday.
     
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    GeoducknCrab Newbie

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    I also agree with those who favor the Golden Nugget. They also offer jackpots and $2/hour comps for your play. We see a lot of new players.
     
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    if you dont mind getting scorned by little old ladies when you sucker them into your made straight flush you got on the flop...(lost the high hand apparently to the next highest SF I found out the next day);
    this was years ago, but it was fairly casual play back then;
    played more recently at Harrah's; had a fun time, new table opened on a late Saturday AM, players agreed to play with a kill...no sore loosers, which made it quite enjoyable.
     
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    You found a limit game at Harrahs? Nice. I’m gonna have to swing by there next month!
     
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    dewey089 Guru of Value

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    I generally agree with previous comments. I played a good while at Flamingo over the years. But I think they had better promos then. It used to be that you could qualify for a no limit tournament that paid the last two tables a hundred dollars each. That was good for newbies.
    If they have a bad beat watch for what must be beaten. Why play if you have to beat quad jacks or something ridiculous like that? Sometimes the bonus rakes wear you down. If you are raked for a bonus that you can't probably hit, that is just a ripoff.
    Sam's Town had a daily tournament that is cheap. You play limit for a while and then no limit. I think it was twenty seven dollars and offered quite a bit of poker. It was in the morning and everyday. Call if interested to see if they still have that.
    Golden Nugget is my favorite because of all the high hand awards. They can make the night. They are progressive. Also, at certain times of the day the house doubles the bonus. Call to see when that is.
    Don't play early in the day with the local rocks. Look for tourist driver games. You can stay out of games with the rocks if there are enough loose players making pots.
    I totally agree that it is very difficult to beat the rake at two four. However, if you get action at your table while you play a conservative game, that can be done. It is easier done with three six or above.
    The Mirage had a three six but I found myself sitting there often a long while to get a seat.
    The Venetian had a four eight and a decent rake.
    Casino promotions can help you or hurt you. If they attract a band of locals because that is the time of the promotion, you might like playing at a different time, after the locals leave and you are left with tourists.

    Two six games are a bit different. I'm not certain they are good for real newbies. I love them. I go to Laughlin to play them where the rakes are very low. However they can get complicated and expensive.

    Much of poker depends on who is at your table. If folks are betting out on fifth best hands, the table is golden, especially if everyone is in preflop with no raises.
    Passive callers is what you want.
    Avoid playing games that cap freflop every hand. That is not poker. It is bingo.
    Watch for folks waiting for no limit games who are just there to wait for their table. Some don't respect the level of two four play and are aggressive because they don't think it is much money.
    They can bully a table.
    If they act before you, it is okay, but if they act after you and always raise, get out or get seat change.
    Sometimes, however, they will not understand how hard it is to bluff. Their raises will not be math, but bluff. Those opponents can be fun. The will lecture about if only they could have put enough in the pots to scare you out. Especially young players who have no limit experience at all are good for you.
    Watch for collusion. It is less likely in two four, but it is there. I've seen it at the Orleans. I don't think the Orleans is the best game for a newbie but they have nice selections. Again, it depends on the people. At the Orleans you can be playing against a table of people who play every day and know exactly how the others play. That puts you on a disadvantage.
    Watch your own decisions to call or fold or raise. For example, on a two four table filled with passive callers, if you get middle suited connectors on the button and no one has raised. Raise. This disguises your hand, so that they think you have high cards. It gives you often a cheap free card and an opportunity to fold later. Often everyone will check to you after the flop. If you have outs, you can check and see the turn for free. Then bettors will bet and you can decide, or you can raise if the turn gave you something.
    It will confuse the table. They will have put you on high cards. You can't often bluff in two four, but this is pretty close. Of course, once you have done it, it has less power. Don't talk about what you had and what you did and why. Don't show your cards unless you haver to. Play tight. Watch. That is the way to overcome rakes.
    Okay, I went a bit beyond your questions, but it seems to me that table selection is as important, especially to newbies, as anything else.
    Oh, you can ask for a table change if things are just not going well. Try to get on tables full of tourists who are having too much fun rather than regulars who are trying to fleece those tourists. The pots will be bigger and you can pick your battles and opponents more easily. A really bad player is often just passed around the table until s/he is broke. I did that often at Flamingo.
    Try to keep straddle players on your right rather than on your left. If I play against a live straddle, I generally raise. I know I am playing three blind hands.
    Be careful of some hands, like Aces with unsuited low cards, or Kings with sevens or eights. Playing those sorts of cards can get expensive because the only people in the hand have higher kickers.
    And most important, come back here and tell us how you did and what you liked. Good luck.
     
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  20. LuckyDuckyDan

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    I grew up on 3/6 limit in Atlantic City. I was quite profitable at it (profitable considering the stakes, that is). There's a lot of wisdom in Dewey's post. "A penny saved is a penny earned" is a very good way of looking at limit.

    Basically don't play any hand that can't make top pair + good kicker or a straight/flush. A8 is a not-so-great limit hand because it either makes a pair of aces with an 8-kicker or a pair of 8s with an A kicker. In a pot that goes to the river, the aces will likely be out-kicked and the 8s will not be top-pair. Any straight/flush that's not the 'best' should be played defensively. Don't get out of line with a Q-high flush when the A and K are not on the board. Don't get out of line with 45 on a board that has 678. Really don't get out of line with 45 on a board that has 6789.

    The difference between 2/4, 3/6 and 4/8 is pretty minimal, in my opinion. It's not until you get to 8/16+ that I've seen any significant increase in poker skill (pot control, raising a flop in position to see a free turn, etc.)

    Other thought - drinks at a poker table is not controlled by the light or ticket system. Being forced to gamble $3 every 9-10 hands is the cheapest you can drink in a casino.
     
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