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Banned from MGM Properties 5 years ago (Fell victim to scam). MGM National Harbor East Coast Openin

Discussion in 'Misc. Vegas Chat' started by inthewaves, Dec 8, 2016.

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  1. inthewaves

    inthewaves Newbie

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    About 5 years ago, my group and I fell victim to a scam at one of MGM's properties (The Mirage). Essentially what happened was a well-dressed and 'badged club promoter' walked up to us while we were in line to book a room and claimed he could get us a discount on a room for tonight along with entry to a club, etc. After talking to him for a bit, we decided to go with the great deal he was offering. He went ahead and booked the room for us, and we thought we had scored.

    Long story short, what ended up happening was that late at night we heard a few knocks at the door and it was Mirage security claiming that the room had been booked using a fake credit card. We ended up being escorted downstairs, where we explained our story, description of the man, etc. Even though we were victims, our photos were taken, our ID's were copied, and we were told that we were banned from all MGM properties, and that stepping foot onto one would result in trespassing violations.

    MGM National Harbor is opening up tonight (Dec. 8th) on the east coast, close to Washington DC, and I've been wanting to play poker. Should I just give up hope of even going in? I'm assuming because this is a MGM property, I'm banned from it as well (even though it isn't in Vegas)?

    Any input is appreciated. Thanks!
     
  2. bedaniels

    bedaniels High-Roller

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    I'd go and gamble, it's their responsibility to keep track of who they banned. If they did charge you with trespassing I'd fight in court and just to make them defend their position. That's BS. Just my 2 cents but I'd gamble on this one.
     
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  3. greekjim

    greekjim High-Roller

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    So did you pay this "promoter" for his services before hand?
     
  4. FullPay

    FullPay When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro

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    I'd find the local boss and tell the story. You got banned for a fake credit card on the hotel room, not anything associated with gambling. More and more casinos means fewer customers to go around, maybe they get you unbanned. Better than risk losing a bonus due to your status.
     
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  5. Snidely

    Snidely VIP Whale

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    Only place I'm banned from is a golf course. I go there sparingly .

    I'd talk to someone in charge at MGM and see if you can get off the naughty list .
     
  6. Johnzimbo

    Johnzimbo VIP Whale

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    If a company treated me like MGM Mirage treated you I would boycott for life.
     
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  7. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    I would go and not worry about it. After all, as far as you "know", you were banned from Vegas casinos.

    I wonder if they even have you in record in Vegas. After all, it is very easy to just "say" you are banned.
     
  8. Snidely

    Snidely VIP Whale

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    I fear they'll take your losses but will find the trespass documents should you win.
     
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  9. BlueBellThunder

    BlueBellThunder VIP Whale

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    I wouldn't give them my business the way they treated you. You were a victim but treated like a criminal.
     
  10. meyers67

    meyers67 VIP Whale

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    I've been told by card counters who have been trespassed that even if they kept a record of who you were, they have to warn you again on a follow up visit before they can have you arrested for trespassing.
     
  11. vegasdev

    vegasdev VIP Whale

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    that sums it up well. save your money, consider it to be their loss.
     
  12. buddhaluv

    buddhaluv Tourist

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    There has been stories of people who are banned that win a lot of money in slots are not allowed to keep it
     
  13. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    Avoid playing games that would result in handpays, or large chip denominations and you will be fine.
     
  14. bubbakitty

    bubbakitty Doing retirement again and happily so....

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    How do they know who you are unless,worried about picture identification from security. Just go play poker. Do you have a player's card sir? Can I get one for you? No no, just here for a little poker. Hear that at the craps tables all the time.
    On the other hand there have to be other casinos in the area for poker. Avoid those where problems could be hiding.
     
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  15. Breeze147

    Breeze147 Button Man

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    I don't know why you're even worried about it. Unless you're famous or something, National Harbor won't know and won't care about what happened at The Mirage in Las Vegas.
     
  16. meyers67

    meyers67 VIP Whale

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    Not true. They can only keep your wins if you (1) cheated or (2) are underage.
     
  17. buddhaluv

    buddhaluv Tourist

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    This is true put this in your google search and there several stories of banned people forfeit winnings

    women bans herself and gets jackpot
     
  18. chitownjohn

    chitownjohn High-Roller

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    In Illinois there are problem gamblers that self exclude themselves from casinos, basically they ban themselves. Once they go through that process the casino has the right to keep all winnings if they attempt to play again.
     
  19. ShelbyCharger

    ShelbyCharger MIA

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    As long as you are losing no one cares. JUST DO NOT WIN.
     
  20. meyers67

    meyers67 VIP Whale

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    That's true. I forgot that exception as well.

    The main point is that even if you are "trespassing" when you hit the jackpot they have to pay you.
     
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