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Back End Comps CET

Discussion in 'Comps' started by Mr. Politics, Oct 13, 2019.

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  1. Mr. Politics

    Mr. Politics Low-Roller

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    How have Back end comps been running for CET? Staying at the Linq for a couple of days and plan to charge the meals to the room. Is it worth it asking a host at the end of the stay?
     
  2. LB9

    LB9 PH Blackjack Degen

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    Yes, absolutely if your play warrants it, the worst they can say is they can't do anything. What i normally do is check with the Caesars rewards desk periodically throughout my trip to see what my average bet/amount of hours was rated at and if it's decent, then the day I'm leaving I'll speak with a host on duty and ask what they can do. The few times I've done this they've been able to take a fair bit off.
     
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  3. jcooper911

    jcooper911 Low-Roller

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    can you give an idea of 'decent' play level for any food comps?
     
  4. LB9

    LB9 PH Blackjack Degen

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    Sure, I'm a table player FYI so I would also elicit responses from slots/vp/other games if you play something else to get perspective as well.

    I normally play 4-6 hours or blackjack per day and if my average is between 50-100 at the various tables (let's say 75 to make it easy) I'll generally inquire with the host on duty as i don't have one assigned. My last few trips have been around 6 hours per day at 75 per hand in BJ over a three day trip, and in addition to front end comps of the room and $100 dining credit, I've normally been able to get around $150 comped off at the end. I stay at Ballys for what it's worth, so I don't know if a host on duty at Linq would comp off the same but as the properties are on the same level so to speak, I would imagine they would.
     
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  5. mrstealth

    mrstealth VIP Whale

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    yeah, LB9 summed it up pretty good but be aware CET will always apply any rewards credits towards comps first.
     
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  6. DaiLun

    DaiLun R.C., L.C., and A.A.N.G.

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    As I've said in the past, unless your play is embarrassingly low, and as long as you have a thick skin and don't mind rejection, it never hurts to ask.

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    OK, so I thought to myself, "quantify embarrassingly low", and I came up with the number of 500TC a day, that is for slot players, $2500 coin in. I'm sorry, I do not know how to translate that into table play.
     
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  7. jcooper911

    jcooper911 Low-Roller

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    Interesting - I am exclusively tables also with around a $40-50 average BJ bet for 3-4 hours, and then craps at $10 pass 2x $12 place bets and 3-5x odds for 3-4hours per day. i get comp rooms at ballys and pH and most caesars/cromwell days, but was wondering about the F&B potential...

    thanks
     
  8. LB9

    LB9 PH Blackjack Degen

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    No problem, I think you may get something off the back end but not a ton depending on what sort of room and at which property you're getting up front. Your play is where mine was for a while before I slightly bumped it up and when I was playing 4 hours per day around 40ish the room was pretty much it. However, since you're also playing another few hours in craps that may bump it up. I would check up front offers for food comps as you may get something like $50 up front. Again, it never hurts to ask as the worst they can do is say no.
     
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  10. mrem3200

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    It also depends on how you did at the tables. They will be less likely to give you comps if you had a winning trip vs. a losing one.
     
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  11. LB9

    LB9 PH Blackjack Degen

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    ^ I'm not sure this is the case unless you're winning or losing substantial sums. I've received more back end comps for $500 winning trips than 3k losing trips for example. In other words, for rudimentary sums, wins and loses aren't really dispositive with respect to how much in back end comps are given unless it's significant.

    Now, if someone was losing 10-20k then they may give more as a consequence as that's a pretty significant loss compared to a few hundred.
     
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    You are correct. As soon as I hit submit, I realized my post was not as clear as it could have been. A $500 loss is not going to generate any more comps than a $500 win. My point was a big loss (say $10k) would get you more comps than a small ($500) win. Thanks for clarifying.
     
  13. JulianC

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    It would be up to each casino (or family of casinos -- CET, in this case) as to what amount of actual loss, and on which games (most likely, table games -- higher variance, higher initial buy-ins, higher per-bet amounts, and way lower house advantage compared to slots) would trigger taking actual loss into consideration for offers instead of (or, perhaps, in addition to) theo. I am guessing that the threshold to start considering actual loss is a five-digit number. Perhaps if actual loss is a certain times more than theo (for the sake of argument, let's say something like 7 times theo), then comp value would become a percentage of actual loss for the next gaming offer or few.
     
  14. Southpaw33

    Southpaw33 Low-Roller

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    I have not heard of winning or losing affecting your backend. Just ADT. Unless it is significant I suppose. But If you are betting that much then you would already be getting everything comped.
     
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    500 TC is not always low. Many of my trips are mixed with 2 500 days and 3 1000 days. And I still receive back end comps. Varies in amount by the comp rate at that time. Example - got a lot less during the week of broadcasting convention when room rate was around $500 per night at Paris vs when it is normally running $175 give/take. They confirmed it was because comp cost was higher & hotel was sold out.
     
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  16. AllenAndRossi

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    While the vast majority of the time this is true, it's not entirely accurate.

    Depending on your action, and it probably helps to have a dedicated Executive Host, they can comp backend and use their own discretionary account without taking your Reward Credits.

    I charged 2 dinner Bacchanal Buffets to my room about 10 days ago. My Executive Host comp'd it off without taking any of my RC's. And I had $700-$800 in RC's.
     
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  17. Southpaw33

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    Yes this is true. As long as they como it out before checkout it shouldn’t come off RC.
     
  18. Goosey

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    What are Caesar's table game comps like compared to MGM these days. I've booked another stay at Aria but contemplating trying Caesars. Mostly play baccarat.
     
  19. SandsFan

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    Agreed it is based on theo not win or loss. I've won 10k and lost 20k and the back end comps are about the same due to my play. As DaiLun said, always ask prior to checking out. Better yet, ask for a host to work with each trip. All they can do is say no
     
  20. shokhead

    shokhead No big spender unless eating drinking having fun!

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    I am clueless to what back end comps are, how you get them and any info
    Can someone explain
     
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