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Atlantic City can reopen 7/2

Discussion in 'Non-Vegas Casino Hotels' started by Wallew, Jun 22, 2020.

  1. oghuman

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    BTW, I have decided to for 3 nights starting this Thursday solo. One of my friends that I regularly see in Caesars AC, he normally goes almost every weekend under normal circumstances. He sent me a note on his experience and he noted it wasn't that bad as he thought. He did mostly takeout food and did an outdoor restaurant.
     
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    I noticed there was a line of guests waiting to get into the boardwalk pool at Ocean Casino over the weekend, it was around 10:30 am. Looked like they were scanning temperatures and checking room keys as it was open for registered hotel guests. It appeared as if the bartender was setting up for some serious day drinking.
     
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    I know this sounds ridiculous but much as I watch the news every morning (and throughout the day), I'm checking for @hammie updates on AC when I wake up as well lol.

    Please, keep them coming.
     
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    I am but a pawn in this life, the real praise goes to @Wallew, @smerrian, @Fet297, all have done yeoman's work with their trip reports and photos, these guys are the feet on the street and keep the board up to date. I'm sure I'm missing others who have posted about their AC experiences during these strange times.

    Ride a bike, you'd be surprised at what you see along the boardwalk!! BTW, the bike kiosk next to Showboat is up and running, looks like there are new bikes this season. Or, they can be rented from AAAA Bike Shop in Ventnor, a mere 3.7 miles from Ocean Casino, no hills, flat as glass.

    This is an out of focus photo of Maryland Ave. from where it ends just steps from the Frank Farley Marina that is Golden Nugget's "The Deck" bar. Looking down Maryland Ave, that white sphere is not an alien spacecraft with the "DO AC" logo, its a stubby water tower. Beyond that is the Hard Rock hotel tower. So if you're at the Hard Rock, Ocean, or Resorts, in a car or on a bike, Maryland Ave is a shortcut to the Marina area.

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    Either way, I've been watching your updates regarding AC for 7 years and I mean that in the least weird way possible LOL. My in-laws are from South Jersey so when I see all you South Jersey guys post recaps, I envision that Philly accent, copious amounts of White House subs and associated good foods, decent 3:2 blackjack at Caesars, fantastic drink service on the floor, pit boss table paper comps and the possibility that there's someone gambling at my table associated with the Philly or NYC Mob. Stereotypes and joking aside, I am really missing my summer AC trip right about now.

    I think what also helps, is that I get along better with people from that part of the country as they're more authentic than the lion's share of fake assholes here in the DC area (I tire of the "who do you work for & where did you go to school" bullshit here).
     
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    You live in the NE Corridor. I find it is the least friendly part of the country...mostly due to population density. The Jersey shore is outside of the rat race and thus more laid back. Nice. I moved to the Philly area from Pittsburgh, a real mid-Western city. I remember reading in the Philly inquirer an op-ed from a woman that thought the people here in Philadelphia were so warm, so friendly. Before I got to the end of the article I thought, this lady must be from NYC to think that Philadelphians are warm and friendly. Sure enough, she was a NYer.

    I put it in public bus stop terms. In NYC you don't even look at other people at your bus stop much less chat with them. In Philly you look at your bus stop mates but you wouldn't chat with them. In Pittsburgh you sit and chat with others at the bus stop (much like in Forrest Gump) all the time. To me, that sums up the NE Corridor.

    Anyway, I don't think anyone knows AC better than @hammie.
     
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    Trust me, @smerrian, the people in my area are an especially type of awful (not all of them as there's good and bad everywhere, but many are). None of them are from here, but all are coming here to make it in politics, power broking, etc. Imaging taking the biggest, entitled d-bag from around the US and throwing them into one small box. That's DC/Arlington lol.

    What I find funny is that I suppose I have somewhere made it my space per se (I am nobody important however, trust me), with nobody's help, so when I see entitled kids from Harvard/Yale/etc. expecting a job where I work because of their easy life thus far, I almost go out of my way not to hire them. I would prefer a B grade student who knew nobody, isn't arrogant and made it on their own, than the wealthy, entitled asshole who expects something because his/her father is a trial lawyer or politician.

    I look at it this way, I think the people who are originally from Philly/NY are very authentic and while they may be rough around the edges, I think the lion's share are decent. I also like in most all of my interactions, people up there are friendly, have amazing food, and are just going about their lives like people in most areas.

    I went to Broad Street for my bday this year and had the best Italian dinner of my life (Pesto Ristorante).

    In DC, especially if you're on the Hill or K street where the lobbyists are, 8 years here has shown me why I can definitely appreciate how people around the country hate what this place stands for. Although to be fair, there are good people here (like anywhere) and you can make very good money if you do know people and are good at what you do haha.

    I think we both agree that @hammie is the man though! That guy has given me so much good advice over the years, and was actually partially responsible for me first going in 2014 AC. Thanks Hammie, I've lost thousands there since! LOL.
     
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    Thanks for the kind words!

    One of the things that would grind my gears was when folks would dismiss AC as a sh!thole or worse. I would challenge the comment and ask if it was from an actual experience or if it was second hand, most times it was the latter. If you had lousy time in Atlantic City then you had the right to pitch a bitch. But if some co-worker or your aunt's first cousin's hairdresser said Atlantic City was a dump, then I'm calling you out. I can't help it, it's just my nature. I don't walk around with rose colored glasses, I know what's good and what's not. For me, there is much more to like in AC than not like. I guess I became an advocate for AC on this board and I found that a large majority of folks who actually visited had a good time and would return.

    I have been coming to the Jersey Shore my whole life and to have what is arguably the second largest concentrated gaming market after Las Vegas along with a beach, how incredible is that? I'm a flea, but enjoy all of the happy hours, restaurants, bars, and entertainment that comes with a casino. Less than 100 miles away for me, and a four hour drive for a big chunk of the USA, this place should be jumping. And it was on its way to having another great year, until COVID-19 hit. Tough times don't last, tough people do.
     
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    I didn't know where to post this, so I will put it here.

    If you happen to get to AC and think about taking a swim when the life guards are off duty, DON'T. By July 4th, there were already 200 ocean rescues, many of these were after hours (beaches are guarded between 10 am and 6 pm).

    About a week ago, a 18 year old man from NY rode down with two friends on a Friday after the guards left the beach. The two friends went into the water and got into trouble due to the undertow that took them further out. The young man went in and helped bring his two friends in, but he didn't make it and his body was found the next day. Jalan Alston was a hero.
     
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    I've been defending AC for years as well, when times are normal, it's an awesome place!

    The only concerning thing is when incidents like this happen lol:

    https://pressofatlanticcity.com/news/crime/3-stabbed-on-tropicana-casino-floor-early-monday-four-arrested/article_f934d75b-d086-5cf2-8950-56d5400ffd86.html
     
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    The reality is that these are money making opportunities simply because the beaches are very crowded at thsi time of year. While I agree with your points about the most loyal customers, the truth is the properties right now don't really care about them. The hotels are allowed to be filled to 100% occupancy and AC is one of the few "free" beaches in NJ. The casinos are open in the hope that on the pass through to the beach or when the kids go to bed, they might get a little play out of them.

    I don't think anyone who is a straight gambler would go out of their way to go, with the exception of trying to utilize the 5x multiplier at CET. Outside of this, I know we would not be planning on going. That being said friends of ours went last week and weekend and said it was enjoyable to be on the beach and they played a little at night and ate outside. They didn't hate it, but without the beach they said they would never have gone.

    They did say that the beaches were fairly crowded considering everything going on and that their hotel (Caesars) also seemed fairly busy, but that many people weren't gambling.

    I think since the actual act of providing the gambling opportunity is not very costly, just being open will generate some additional revenue, which is good for both the property and the state.
     
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    I do agree with what you're saying, however, I cannot imagine the casinos are raking it in given the labor and associated costs they have to pay while concomitantly bringing in significantly less revenue than they normally would given the restrictions on the amount of people allowed on the casino floor, which is not hitting capacity (I believe it's 25% currently, but I may be wrong). Now, to be fair I concede that they're probably saving money insofar as not dishing out alcohol, but that's also somewhat offset by the significantly less dining and associated revenue streams that are either shut down entirely (shows, events), or dwindled significantly, such as dining. I cannot conceive that garage rooftops are packed to the brim when it's 95 degrees outside, when prospective customers can go down the road and have dinner for 1/4 the price of Nero's steakhouse.

    Again, I love AC, but the reality is that all of the gains that AC has made within the last few years from those dark days in the early 2010's are soon to be gone, especially if the indoor dining ban lasts through the summer, which is the bread and butter of when AC makes its money. As someone who regularly goes to AC during the winter months, I can assure you, there's not a hell of a lot to offer people when there's no beach.

    That being said, I do think your points are all valid so I hope you don't take what I'm saying as a repudiation but rather, a justification for my original points.
     
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    While it's very convenient walking out the front door of Caesars to the beach, you will most definitely run into some crowds. Plus the Pier provides some shade on hot days and that can get crowded.

    For those who may be skittish about being on a crowded beach and can pack their own chairs or umbrella, go to Bartram Ave. beach where the island is much narrower (hence fewer folks), there is a bathroom and outside shower to rinse off the sand. You can easily maintain distance from your neighbors.

    But stop at the White House Sub Shop first and order a Half WH Special, make sure they cut it in half, and split it with your beach mate. 1/2 of a Half is plenty for lunch.

    And bring a cooler of beer with koozies; while drinking alcohol is technically prohibited, they won't intervene unless you're making an a$$ out of yourself or you haul a portable keg onto the beach.
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    This is actually a cool idea, a wheeled trash bin filled with ice and a keg.
     
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    I one million percent agree with you. Maybe even more than a million percent. And I also agree that spending that kind of money to eat in a parking garage is absurd. I really think this has just come down to the "well we have to do something" approach with a side of "please God let this not last too long". The only reason I say that is even Borgata has made the decision to open despite no substantive change from what caused them to stay closed. Somewhere some metric must say it's better to get a little bit than nothing at all.

    I am a big fall winter and spring AC guy so I completely agree there isn't much to offer with no beach. What always amazes me though is their inability to capitalize on any events taking place during the off months too. (limited super bowl events, limited march madness events) 2 years ago we were down for a national rodeo event in late November at Boardwalk Hall. When the event ended, a few thousand people and cowboys walked in Wild Wild West area at Ballys (naturally). Instead of being prepared to capitalize on this Bally's had a pop band playing and only the mountain bar had any accessibility. 90% of those people just walked right on through.

    Consistently AC could do more and do better, and they are getting murdered by this virus. Hopefully they will get a reprieve sooner rather than later, otherwise they and the city and state may be in for some tough days.
     
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    Our discussion should be a model for how people can have a civil discussion these days! Lol :)
     
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    If there's a better sub shop in New Jersey, I've yet to find it.
     
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    Well, to be fair, Bally's got lazy...It used to be one of the best properties in AC. Hard to believe that now. Otherwise, I agree with you on not doing enough to lure folks.
     
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    It’s beyond me how this hasn’t been legal for years, stupid me I used to walk the boardwalk with a beer in trips past lol.
     
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