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Anyone care to share the Good, Bad and Ugly about Palace Station?

Discussion in 'Off-Strip Hotels' started by tee6395, Mar 15, 2020.

  1. tee6395

    tee6395 Downtown Dreamer

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    I'm officially leaving Plaza after my next trip (whenever that is with all that's going on!) I've come up with a short list:

    South Point
    Palace Station

    I wish PS had a spa and a food court. I wish SP wasn't so damn far from DT. I wish both were better at giving comps even when you win!

    Tell me why one is better or different from the other. I realize PS is Stations and I've been warned, but I keep reading more and more positives and it's got me intrigued.

    I tried perusing the archives and after 6 pages I just didn't find what I was looking for.

    I can't find anything about PS's Player's Club. I've read that there's Chairman or some kind of level with that name. If someone has a link to that info - I'd be forever grateful.

    Any and all help/opinions very much appreciated!!!
     
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  2. JulianC

    JulianC Amateur

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    Let's start with the FAQ for Boarding Pass (used at all Stations casinos): https://www.sclv.com/MyBoardingPass/FAQ

    Because Stations is local- and drive-market for its preferred player demographic, their loyalty program has a six-month earning period (Jan-Jun, Jul-Dec). Fly-market players who care a ton about tier level and the related benefits should only care starting at the President level. The key President benefit is becoming eligible to be a hosted player (and I presume that achieving tier does not guarantee becoming hosted). Your typical level of VP play alone would maintain President just from a single trip -- leaving you able to rotate casinos between trips if you wish. You did recently state that you were leaning toward reducing your usual volume of play, and I believe that you are OK with accommodations that are top-notch but did not require the best suite in the house (or even a suite at all).

    Front-end gaming offers with Stations are property-specific. You receive them two months at a time, and you can use the offer once per month. (They hope that you make one visit per month -- 1-2 hotel nights per visit. They likely expect a stronger and/or more committed player to visit no less frequently than bimonthly -- maybe stretching to quarterly if fly-market and having a longer stay each time.) Expect to get your best (if not only) offers from the Stations property where you have your greatest volume of play. Frequency of play at an individual Stations property might matter, too. I estimate that $250-300 of ADT will garner an offer that will soundly beat whatever the Plaza would give, and would be of appropriate comp value on its own. (I based this entire paragraph on a single day of drop-in play at Boulder Station about three months ago -- but the trend would be consistent across most Stations properties.)

    Admittedly, I am not familiar with what you usually seek for (fine) dining and other resort amenities in your casino hotel stays. If the dining options at PS are to your liking, I expect them to not disappoint. If you like seafood, the Oyster Bar often gets good reviews.

    I will not be able to speak from any experience about South Point.
     
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  3. jpfromla

    jpfromla Low-Roller

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    Los Angeles visitor: SP is bigger, good VP, lots of food options, but no offers as of yet. PS, Stations casino so there offers are ok, at least we are getting offers, decent VP. PS was redone about a year ago and they did a good job. Some but good food choices. PS is closer to downtown or the strip, SP is farther away. Both are a plus from Plaza, esp. the gaming floor.
     
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  4. jpfromla

    jpfromla Low-Roller

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    PS does not have a “food court” but they have an Italian, Asian and Mexican eateries that serve that purpose. Burger King is across the street.
     
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  5. tee6395

    tee6395 Downtown Dreamer

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    @JulianC That was the link I was looking for. I know I had seen it some time ago, but when I visited the PS website I didn't see anything. I should've retained the fact that somewhere existed an Umbrella link for the Station's way of life. Thanks for that!

    Also, thanks for your opinion overall. You know I've come to value it.
     
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    tee6395 Downtown Dreamer

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    You are really feeding into why I'm moving PS up above SP. Not that the room has to be great - I mean I'm coming from Plaza after all. However, it is more of a fit or at least at the level I'm used to from my local and the type of suites we tend to book when traveling to other places that aren't Vegas. The food choices left me a little cold. SP seems to have everything under the sun. I am not a picky eater but do have a White Trash palette. That's kind of why I mentioned food court. I like the option of "grab and go." Although, many of the choices are definitely casual. The best thing anyone has said so far about PS is that it is indeed much, much closer to DT. I've got hundreds and hundreds of comps I need to use there. I HATE leaving money on the table!
     
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    Hard6n8 Low-Roller

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    It's the only Casino I ever walked out of due to smoke.
     
  8. tee6395

    tee6395 Downtown Dreamer

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    Before or after the massive renovation they did a year ago?
     
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    Hard6n8 Low-Roller

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    This was a few years back.
     
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  10. Golfer

    Golfer Low-Roller

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    Stations offers are property centric. If you're interested in PS, and have played elsewhere, for PS, you are best off calling directly, and not relying on the MBP website.

    e.g., when I logged on to see where I wanted to stay for MM, the site indicated very high prices and limited availability for PS, but all sorts of offers for RR. When I called, I found out after they looked me up, PS was fine. That was just the front desk. When I later called the RR host (I guess he's my host everywhere), transportation, food etc was added.
     
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  11. zignerlv

    zignerlv VIP Whale

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    The number one factor for me, is the insanity of the Stations marketing comp offer criteria. If you win, you are labelled a winner, and your comp room/mailer offers get cut. I have seen probably close to 20 reports in the last few years, confirming this. For this reason alone, I'd never try to play there enough (or at any Station property), to generate offers. You'll be fine if you lose every trip, until you don't!

    Maybe if you play worse payscale VP, or slots, the winning factor might be less important, but then again, if you seek out a machine paying 2% less and put tens of thousands through, you might as well just pay for the room and play the full pay VP games. It would end up costing you less, bankroll wise.

    Once or twice a year I go into PS for a short visit, in part to keep my points active. I do notice at times a few less than desirable creatures around the place, even near check-in there.
     
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  12. tee6395

    tee6395 Downtown Dreamer

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    It is sounding more and more that SP and PS treat their winners the same. Do you have knowledge of SP? I've heard from a few different people that their offers cease when they win. I'm wondering if hosted by either - if you could still at least get the room upfront after a win via a host.
     
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    Don the Dentist LV resident

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    A note about mailers for both properties:
    Stations - As a local, if you win, the mailer will be reduced. If you continue winning, you will be no-mailed. From what I have heard, the mailers to non locals are decent.
    South Point - As a local, if you win, the mailer will be reduced. But as a local, the mailers are pretty good and it is possible to "game" the system in a limited capacity. Sorry, no details. From what I have heard, the mailers to non locals are not very good.
     
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  14. Golfer

    Golfer Low-Roller

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    I've never not gotten upfront rooms, and I've won and lost at PS. This is not to defend their system, it is absolutely a nightmare, and I believe their MBP website to be useless.

    If you're going to do SC as a group, and specifically PS, I'd do what I do. Which is I have a Red Rock host who is pretty high up, and I use him for everything. I'd forget property specific hosts, and I'd forget their website. Although the on property hosts at PS have been helpful. But I personally have no need for them.

    You and I have had this conversation regarding some other properties, but it applies here as well. I know what they expect, and I give them what they expect, and due to location, I am able to go other places. To wit, I'm not concerned about food at PS or RR, so I generally play to a level to get rooms, and occasionally if I want the high end steakhouse ar RR, I either just pay, or play slightly larger.

    There are many on here that can break than down almost to the penny, and use somewhat complex math to do that. I don't think that's necessary. You can do this on the back of a napkin.

    I'll add that I know you have some concerns about transportation. They've offered it to me, and I' ve never used it. They'll provide some outside of a shuttle, predicated on play obviously. I can expand on that, but probably not publically. I had a guy burn me once with a host after I got him set up with a spa suite at another casino, based on his overstated play and bravado on a message board, so I'm going to be discreet.
     
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    South point is great— but make sure you understand how far away you are from the rest of the action in Vegas.
    And vegas is closed so it’s a moot point
     
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    agree on all points, some are my own experience, some are heard other players.
     
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  17. tee6395

    tee6395 Downtown Dreamer

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    Well, I pulled the trigger. I'm hopeful that things will be on the upswing for a late August trip. If so, we will be staying at Palace Station for 4 nights (happy with the rate I got and hopeful that I will get a backend comp) and spending at least 1/2 a day at Southpoint to scope things out.

    Thanks for everyone's thoughts and opinions and all of the DM's info I received. It has really helped and without all of you I'd still be in my abusive relationship with The Plaza! :D
     
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    On the Stations Casino website, They will except online reservations starting May 1ST.