Question that's none of our business but, the soon to be wife is okay with this behaviour? Alcohol doesn't make people violent. It lowers the inhibition of violent people to act out and release their violent tendencies. Methinks a chat with someone who has some professional credentials to assist might be helpful. If he was ex military this poor dude might have some stuff going on in his head that would be hard for anyone to imagine. I'm a little worried about your bachelor party dude. Babysitting a drunk doesn't sound like a good time to me but if you choose to do that, I think we all wish you luck. When I was a much younger lad their was a fight at a local country bar I used to go to on a weekly basis. Big guy picking a fight with a little guy. It was a classic bully situation as the little guy didn't ask for any of it but the bigger guy pressed and the fight ensued. Well, it wasn't much of a fight. One punch was thrown. The little guy connected with the big guy. Big guy fell, hit his temple on one of those cement parking blocks. He died right there. Little guy charged with manslaughter, or assault causing or something like that. Long story short, it was self defense and he walked but he still had to hire a lawyer and go to court and through an excessive amount of stress. Luckily he had a multitude of witnesses that had observed the drunken bully being a drunken bully. And I think I speak for all of us when I say...we would LOVE a trip report because if things do go smoothly it will probably be a gooder.
@Gaggles Best man is married, has been for years. This will be the grooms 2nd shot at it. The best mans wife keeps him in check MOST of the time the issues generally arise when she isn't around.
We are all meeting at a local casino later to have dinner and discuss plans for the bachelor party weekend. I'll get to see how he is in a casino setting w/o his wife. My fiance isn't thrilled about me going so i'll see what ends up happening. I'm suggesting alternatives tonight like a golf getaway in SC or poking our eyes out with pins...
You should ask everyone to chip in for bail in advance and then you double it the BJ table as soon as you get to Vegas.
Oh make no mistake.....I think you should partake of this bachelor party to Vegas. Cuz...it's still Vegas right?!?
Two things from last nights casino dinner/meeting: 1) I have a budget and dates to start looking for "deals" 2) In a super secret side meeting when best man when to piss we have decided to let him sit in jail if he gets arrested. Also we will try to keep drinking confined to our hotel (seems like Cosmo is the place) It feels like this trip may be a GO
Has anyone said the following yet: NOTHING SHOULD BE IN YOUR NAME. Most notably, if you book a room that this guy is staying in, book a table at a club, etc. Your name is destroyed at that casino if he gets out of line, and you're responsible for any financial damages. I'm nervous when I hear you are planning this. Personally, I think you have a couple of choices: 1. Don't go and be honest with the groom as to why. You can help them plan, others can go. 2. Go and avoid him. Are there other people going who are closer to you than this guy? Hang out with those people after dinner every day. You may have to skip an event or two like pool cabana day if he's going to be rip roaring drunk by 3 pm. If you can't do #2, I'd avoid him. It won't be a fun trip. You'll be on edge. The zip ties advice is terrible for a very different reason than anyone else has said so far - I'd be far less worried about criminal charges and far more worried that a drunken maniac would kick my ass while I fumbled with zip ties. I can spend a night in jail or pay a few grand; I can't get brain function back.
The side deal sucks, so your plan is to be with someone who gets arrested (not just kicked out, but arrested) for making a scene in THE CASINO YOU ARE ALL STAYING IN? This is a recipe for all of you to get booted. And, as others have noted, my experience with very, very drunk people in Vegas is they just take you to your room or walk you to a cab unless you are a massive pain. I have a friend who is loud and drinks too much, albeit never in a way that results in him trying to fight someone or something like that. I have opened my hotel room door at 4 am to a NYNY security guard who was like, "Is this your friend?" Apparently he couldn't remember the room number and was knocking on multiple doors on other floors looking for me.
Let those with more history with the guy be his handlers, maybe a female or two (Grooms wife?) can talk some reason into his drunk, thick head. If not, you not getting arrested with the bunch gives you the option to be the bail hero.. Though I like your group no decision on that. Also, bouncers tell me a decent hard push will usually put a drunk on his ass. Sometimes out the door you want him to exit from. Please do a TR, also you planning to hit downtown? Oh, I forgot, you could always take a pic of every bail bondsman billboard you see on the way in... just in case.
I have not but I guess the real question is with all the responses who DIDN'T get arrested in Vegas LOL
When the drunk sees the large size of the casino security when they converge on him he will surrender for sure. Hehe
Some (probably most) MMA guys are classy, and know both power and restraint. This is the outcome of someone hassling Matt Seras family while they were trying to eat: but wait, it gets better, this was the night before he was inducted into the UFC hall of fame. let's hear his side.. (sorry, semi off topic but kinda on?) He was even trying to chill and avoid shit like this by going to Red Rock!.. Do you know what one punch from this guy would have done?. back on topic, IDK dude. good luck.
How much time between Vegas trip and wedding? The fact that the secret meeting actually happened is sad. Isolate and deny.