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Table Games Anybody know a good baccarat simulator?

Discussion in 'Table Games' started by Farner, Jul 26, 2020.

  1. Farner

    Farner Low-Roller

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    Its baccarat. There is no way to "improve" your play. The outcome of every hand is pre-determined as soon as the cards are loaded into the shoe. How are you looking to improve?
     
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    I don't know about mobile, but Wizard of Odds has a decent baccarat simulator. Also, there's loads of online casinos where you can play for free. Just google "free online baccarat."
     
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    I think what the OP means is to improve their familiarity with the game. You're absolutely correct that there's zero skill involved... but getting to know the sequences of how cards are dealt (and when third cards are taken for banker and/or player) in addition to what kind of patterns tend to emerge is absolutely a matter of learning, whether for the sake of being more comfortable with the game or for the sake of not coming across as a novice at the table. Likewise, with casino games being primarily for entertainment, I think testing out betting patterns to see how you have the most fun is a good thing to do with a baccarat simulator as well where those lessons are free.

    OP, I've personally played quite a bit on the Wizard of Odds' baccarat simulator. It will give you a pretty good idea of how the game is played. The only major exception to live gameplay is that it's a "continuous" game as opposed to an eight-deck shoe... which does have significance, because one of the big superstitions in baccarat is that some shoes are predisposed to being a "banker" or "player" shoe. Other than that, this is an excellent way to get your feet wet.
     
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  5. UKFanatic

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    If that's the case, I would suggest getting familiar at the casino. The good thing about baccarat is that there are no rules you must learn to play. The bettor doesn't decide when to take a hit. All you have to know how to do is place a wager on the banker side, the player side, or the tie side (or a side bet if they are offered and you enjoy sucker wagers). Even if you don't know how the cards are dealt, it doesn't matter. The dealer will know and the hand will be dealt accordingly. As for betting patterns, well that's part of the gambers fallacy. Again, I contend there is nothing to actually learn on that front, unless you believe in things that aren't real.

    There is something to be said, though, about becoming familiar with the table superstitions. Again, you can absolutely play without knowing those, but I understand people may be uncomfortable jumping into a busy table withut knowing the etiquette of the game. But you can't really learn that online. Just go to a busy table the next time you are at the casino and watch for a little while. Or if you want to jump in immediately, do it. Just watch the biggest player at the table and bet the same side he or she does each time. You're not likely to make any etiquette mistakes doing that.
     
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  6. notfromconcentrate

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    This is a very good distinction to bring up because it's very much part of "learning" baccarat for the sake of preparing for live play. Personally I would treat the fundamentals of the game as a prerequisite to table etiquette. Not just to maximize your time at the casino (i.e., you can spend an indefinite amount of time in front of your computer playing a simulator, whereas the average person's schedule would only allow so much time at an actual casino to watch), but also to maximize what you pick up on at the actual table when you do go. If one is watching the actual game intently to learn the flow of the cards/chips, they may miss some more subtle parts of the etiquette... whereas if they go in having played a few hours of simulation, their attention will be on the more subjective stuff that will be far more instrumental to their enjoyment of live play. You can't really play baccarat "right" or "wrong", but I think we both agree that dichotomy very much applies to table etiquette, and being on the wrong side of it can make for a very bad time :)

    I've actually played very little live baccarat myself (maybe three or four hours of play at most), but I've watched dozens of hours of live play... primarily at what was my local casino when I lived in England. I often went there to have coffee of all things (one of the only places in the neighbourhood that made a good latte), and would usually observe one of their baccarat tables which was running at all times. That definitely familiarized me with the etiquette of the game, so I can attest to the effectiveness of spectating as you had suggested.
     
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    From there, aren't there distinctions between "regular" baccarat, mini baccarat, and midi baccarat? I've never played any of them, but my tangential understanding is that while the game plays the same, the process/etiquette varies considerably.
     
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    No difference in the rules. In mini bac, the dealer handles the cards. In midi, the players turn over the cards. In true big table bac, the players deal and turn the cards (but I am not sure you can find that game publicly in vegas anymore; even the few remaining big table bac games I see this day, the dealers still deal the cards). But to be clear, the rules of how many cards you get and which side wins remains the same.
     
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    Big fan of the midi myself. And in my own experience, I played a simulated version at first but I learned way more at the table. You can buy in, sit and watch, and see all the little things that make the game great. I mean, you can’t learn “barbecue” on the sim game. :thumbsup:
     
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    Farner Low-Roller

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    Thank you so much for all those amazing comments and pointers. Just like with roulette, I understand that there is no true ‘skill’ but as UKF and NFC said, the etiquette and flow of the game is something I would like to learn more about. Thank you Raven888 for suggesting Wizzard of Odds.