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Anybody Ilani?

Discussion in 'Non-Vegas Casino Hotels' started by idtwins, Apr 24, 2017.

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  1. idtwins

    idtwins Low-Roller

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    Any folks in the Northwest brave the traffic and crowds to visit the new Ilani casino in Washington?

    I see some conflicting information out there but it looks like there's no video poker. Can anyone confirm?
     
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  2. ItsVegasTime

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    I didn't go today, but hope to check it out soon. I was just watching on the news, it looks like opening was a mad house!
     
  3. Catzilla

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    We thought about it, but then opted for Spirit Mountain. Should have just stayed home. No playtime whatsoever. Possibly they think that fancy remodel is going to be enough to keep people coming?

    I was surprised to learn that Ilani was not going to have a buffet. But truthfully, the buffet at Spirit Mountain now is nowhere near as good as it used to be, so maybe that's not such a big deal after all.

    I'm curious whether they will have any bus service from the Portland area? There's nothing on their website. I'm not real keen on driving 205, so I do hope they eventually have some kind of transportation.

    I have a friend who lives close to Ilani. Hopefully she will check it out soon and give me a report. I don't know about the VP either.
     
  4. idtwins

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    Thanks Catzilla and ItsVegasTime. I'm sure we'll get up there at some point but I'd rather wait a bit for the hoopla to subside a bit. I was hoping Spirit Mountain or Chinook would throw us some extra bones to come see them this week but so far nothing. As far as Spirit Mountain goes, always loved going there pre-remodel but now I just get the feeling they need to pay for the place as the money/playtime doesn't seem to last like it used to:whistle:. I agree about the buffet as well. We've been hitting Chinook a bit more often. Better beer choices out there but it's another 60 miles added to the round trip!
     
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    Spirit Mountain Casino is anticipating losing 10's of millions annually to Ilani. Nearly ALL of the folks I know are STOKED about the demise of Spirit. The demise of Spirit Mountain Casino should be a "case" study for the casino management industry of how NOT to treat your customers......especially the ones that drop several thousands each month to support the tribe. There were several of my friends that bypass Spirit and go the extra miles to Chinook just because of the horrible way Spirit has treated them. Perhaps Vegas could learn something from this too!. LOL
     
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    Good for Ilani for apparently not putting in video poker in instead of deceiving the public!!! Hate to burst a bubble, but VP in Washington State is NOT like Vegas. It behaves just like the slot machines do there due to state law. :(

    If you want "Vegas Style" video poker, you need to either go to Arizona, British Columbia, California, Oregon, tons of states further east, or Vegas of course!

    It sounds like people hate the place in this thread, but if you want to play VP, Spirit Mountain may still be your best choice. It will certainly be better than any Washington tribal casino!
     
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    I agree salemorvegaslover, I am one of those who will be STOKED to see Spirit Mountain have to rethink how they treat their customers. If the buffet gets crappier and the machines get tighter, they might just find out that the only loyalty they had from customers was really only a matter of convenience.

    Yes, idtwins, I also wondered whether there might be some kind of promotion at Spirit or Chinook to entice people not to head to Washington, but I got nothing. Spirit Mountain was not very busy on Monday, which is their senior day. One of my favorite things to do at Chinook used to be to walk over to the Lighthouse and have a glass of Hammerhead and an order of those wonderful greasy fries! :beer:
     
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    Thanks Tring! I honestly didn't know about VP in Washington so that's good to know.

    I do like playing VP at Spirit Mountain and have many great memories there but since the remodel we've been let down in a pretty big way. The games haven't changed (they just moved them around), the draft beers got smaller, the tap selection is limited and the lighting in "The Peak" is just strange to me now.

    Chinook Winds has a decent selection of Video Poker and they also have a good selection of older slots that my wife loves to play. Ilani will, of course, be the latest/greatest machines so the draw for us will be to see just how over-the-top the casino itself is. Personally I love that stuff, neon for days, carpet loud enough that it tells stories over the casino sounds, huge signs, chasing lights, sights and sounds that only a casino can offer!
     
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    I was also told by a Sapphire card holder at Chinook Winds Casino that the new Ilani casino in Washington WILL honor those cardholders from the Oregon casinos the same cardholder status they currently have from either Spirit or Chinook. Now that's smart marketing! Incidentally.......the projection for Spirit's annual loss of revenue due to Ilani is expected to be more than $100 million. Poor Spirit. Karma's a bitch.
     
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    http://www.wweek.com/news/2017/04/19/portland-meadows-and-the-oregon-lottery-desperately-seek-answers-for-a-new-casino-across-the-river/

    State officials have been bracing themselves for Ilani's impact. The Oregon Office of Economic Analysis, which prepares budget forecasts, expects the new casino to slash lottery revenues by $110 million a year, about 12 percent of the current total. Oregon Lottery dollars go to fund education, parks and economic development.

    and then...

    One way for the lottery to fight back is to increase the number of video terminals (terminals account for more than 70 percent of lottery revenue). But research done last year found Oregon is already oversupplied with gaming options: Spending on gambling as a percentage of personal income is already about 1.5 times the industry's "saturation level."

    As someone who has never won a nickel off an Oregon Lottery slot machine, I can tell you that having a dozen of them instead of six in the pizza parlor isn't going to make a difference to me.

    So in effect, while Oregon pretends nontribal casinos are illegal, dozens of them operate in low-rent strip malls, while Washington welcomes a half-billion-dollar investment that will employ 1,200 people.

    ;)
     
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    Okay, my friend payed Ilani a visit today. She said the food was overpriced and a huge percentage of the slots were still not working. Also mentioned the slot selection being basically no different from Spirit or Chinook. I'm not sure what the restaurant was, but she said a specialty salad was $18. On the plus side, she said the casino was big and pretty.
     
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    Thanks Catzilla and everyone else. Appreciate the info!
     
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    It will be interesting to see what you think of Ilani, idtwins. I just read another very critical review by someone who said the machines were tight and many inoperable. Appears they were not ready to open?

    Apparently they do not have self serve drink stations either and the lack of buffet is not going over well.
     
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    Wife and I were going to check it out this morning but after reading some reviews on yelp and google, seems there's a common theme so we decided to sleep in instead:
    - machines are too tight/no bonuses
    - trash and cigarette ashes/butts laying on floor and machines because there aren't enough trash bins or ash trays around.

    I also learned one must pay for all drinks including water and soda!
     
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    Correct me if I am wrong but does Spirit Mountain have better VP odds than Chinook Winds? Oddly enough I actually had better luck at CW than SM when we were out there last year. SM was in the middle of their remodel at the time. CW seems to have the advantage anyways because of its location, right next to the Ocean!!
     
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    Not sure about the odds but can tell you that my wife and I also seem to do better at Chinook. I haven't kept any real records so it may just be perception but for a while the joke between me and my wife was "SM must be paying for their remodel by cranking down the games!" Chinook being next to the ocean is a definite plus, till the longer drive home :)
     
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    I was there Monday night. There is video poker.
     
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    OK...so we made a trip out to Ilani. Wife and I spent a couple of hours out there to check it out on Tuesday night.

    Some observations:
    - The place was rather clean. I didn't see the cigarette butts or ashes anymore than I have at other Casinos. I did see workers cleaning up and pushing in chairs.

    - We didn't eat anything so apologies but no food comments.

    - Contrary to some complaints I saw online, we walked right up to the slot club desk ("Momentum") and had our cards in about 2 minutes. The staff was very friendly.

    - There is no real video poker. They do have some machines that claim to be video poker but they have strange rules and play.
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    - If you like penny slots, it's your heaven. That's pretty much all they have there in terms of slots. There are some nickels, quarters, and dollars on the main floor but very few in the sea of penny slots.

    - There are definitely no drink stations however the cocktail waitresses were handing out free bottles of water.

    - We saw very few machines that we're down, less than 10. TITO kiosks were all working save for just 1. Seemed like the place was about fully operational to me.

    - Wife and I commented that we smelled no smoke there. I had seen complaints that the place reeked of smoke already but we didn't have that experience.

    - It seemed difficult to find any smoking/non smoking section. Someone actually stopped me and my wife and asked us if we knew where the smoking section was and we couldn't really answer them. There are No Smoking symbols in the bottom left corner of the screens if you're sitting at a no-smoking machine however they may be right next to a bank of machines that don't have the symbols.
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    - Almost all of the slot machines look the same in terms of hardware. They all have the same buttons and screens regardless if you're playing Road Trip or Coyote Moon. It didn't bother my wife at all but it made me feel a bit like I was just playing the same thing over and over but with a different color. I am sure I am not expressing this very well....

    - Many of the machines don't have volume control and were quieter than I like them.

    - Slot machines are grouped together in pods on the floor instead of mixed in with each other.
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    - The place is beautiful as many have already mentioned. Here's looking in at the front door.
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    Lights above the entrance to greet you:
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    - Many of the machines have no "middle" bets. For example, you can bet $.25 or $1.00 but cannot bet $.50
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    - Many have said the place is 'tight' and bonuses are hard to get. We didn't have that experience. Heard the bonus bell on our machines and others about the same as we would have anywhere else. We definitely didn't see the tightness:
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    All in all, we're glad we went. From our location to there is almost all I-5 freeway drive so it's a quick trip. Definite plus for us. I'm sure we'll be back.
     
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    It has been my understanding that Washington State only allows Class ll slot machines. While they look like Vegas or Class lll machines, they are not in that the “House” is not allowed to take a bet. Essentially, players play against one another, not the “House” and win on a random or bingo type of technology. The Hard Rock Casinos here were only allowed to operate with Class ll machines until they made a compact with the State of Florida in 2010. In exchange for being allowed to offer Class lll machines, they agreed to pay the State a considerable amount each year. Slot players seemed to fair better with the Class ll machines as the casinos permissible rake on their play was less than the conventional take on the Vegas style slots. Their VP back then was nonsensical as it made no difference what you did as you won or loss as determined by the banks random selection of winners and losers. Back then, we only played the slots which you could win upon. Have fun!
     
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