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Airfare for someone needing assistance

Discussion in 'Non-Vegas Chat' started by jgates8, May 29, 2017.

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  1. jgates8

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    I'm just full of dumb questions today. I have to try to help a friend book airfare for her grandson (who she takes care of) to visit family. He is not really mentally handicapped, however he definitely would not be able to fly without assistance. He would literally walk into the airport and not have any clue and go curl up in a corner. (He is around 16).

    1. She wanted to take him directly to the gate. I said I didn't think that was doable & she would likely have to turn him over to someone at TSA??? Or would she be able to escort him to the gate with some type of pass?

    2. Right now it appears that RT is actually about $100 less than a one-way for the non-stop route. Are there any issues if the RT is booked and he doesn't come back on the return flight? (It actually appears it's a changeable fare too so possibly they could alter the return flight & pay the difference - only reason I'm leaning towards that anyway in case she can't go get him)

    3. How does a person go about booking the flight and requesting the assistance for the kid? Can it be done by phone anymore to make sure everything is set? Basically he would need to be escorted from where she could leave him to the plane and then back to the baggage area upon departure from the plane to meet his mom. Will they do that much?

    Looking at Delta right now. Definitely expensive - SW would be a ton cheaper on the one-way, but she wouldn't want to worry about him changing planes at Midway.
     
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    If he is younger than 16 there is an "unaccompanied minor" fare and process. There Is an added fare charge for this.
     
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    Yes, if someone needs assistance, you can get a gate pass to take him to the gate. TSA will not escort anyone to the gate. Not their job.

    Roundtrip and not using return... this is called a throw away ticket. done often. You can NOT turn in the second half for a refund - they would reprice it as a one way, and more expensive.
     
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    Thank you - I will try that number when she is there with me tomorrow. I liked it better for her when there was a local travel agent in town lol. Otherwise it's dumped on me.

    nostress - we wouldn't plan on turning in the second part for a refund (it is non-refundable but changeable) - if he did 'throw away' the second half, would they charge the card she booked it with for the add'l $100?

    I am sure she could get something from the Dr if needed for him to allow her to go to gate with him.
     
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    The one question that you didn't answer was "what is his age"? Is he 15 or 16? Does he have a valid ID? If he doesn't, he's not getting through TSA and you will HAVE TO buy him a "special" ticket.
     
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    He would have a school ID with a photo. I know that worked when I had my kids with me, however not sure that would work if no one is traveling with him. We will likely have to ask that when we book the ticket. I believe he is 16 now - birthday is close but not sure if it's coming or just was. Likely to never have a driver's license.
     
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    There is no "charge" for a throwaway ticket. Actually against the airline rules, but nobody ever seems to have a problem with it. Done it many times.

    As to ID - a school ID is not considered an official government ID. Also, you can get a non driving DL for anyone. Maybe folks that do not drive get them at the DL office.
     
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    Although I understand that you are "helping someone else", IMHO, this is going to need more planning than (what it appears that) you are doing. You need to contact the airline and explain the situation. They would be the best to advise.

    Also, if you live in one of these states he should get a passport

    In 2018

    "Residents of Kentucky, Maine, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, and Washington will have to use alternate ID forms (passport, military ID, or permanent resident card) to pass TSA security checkpoints—even for domestic travel."

    Know what the boy's age is, and what ID he has available to him.

    When he turns 16, he should be taken to the DMV to get an ID card. That is what I am doing for my soon to be 16 year old until he gets his driver's license.
     
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    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    Your advice may have merit. BUT - this threat has been going on for years. I highly doubt it will come to this sort of issue. Those states will continue to fight the feds over it and it wil extended again or rules changed or the states will do something. They are not going to just treat those states like a 3rd world country. Scaring people into getting a passport is what the news organizations enjoy doing.

    And, by the way, do you realize NOBODY has to have any ID to fly? It will slow you down, but it is not an absolute rule.
     
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    Yeah, that may be true, but do you REALLY want to make things difficult at the airport? Are you the guy that I'm rolling my eyes skyward towards when he quotes "Hey, you don't have to have ID to fly" as the line backs up and goes nowhere?

    BTW, according to this article, the TSA says that if you're over 18, you need a valid photo ID.

    http://traveltips.usatoday.com/photo-id-requirements-air-travel-within-united-states-100317.html

    "The Transportation Security Administration (tsa.gov) oversees the photo identification requirements for all travel within the United States. Although airline passengers under age 18 are not required to present a photo ID when flying, all adults must present an acceptable form of identification before passing through the TSA screening checkpoint and being allowed to board their aircraft."
     
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    I always travel with an ID and always ready to show it. When going intl, I use my Passport even when I have my DL in my pocket. I would never suggest someone opt out. I do stand by my statement that those states listed by the media over and over will NOT encounter difficulties in 2018.

    But, to clarify from the TSA website (not a news article) - it says:

    In the event you arrive at the airport without valid identification, because it is lost or at home, you may still be allowed to fly. The TSA officer may ask you to complete a form to include your name and current address, and may ask additional questions to confirm your identity. If your identity is confirmed, you will be allowed to enter the screening checkpoint. You may be subject to additional screening.


    LInk : https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/identification
     
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    I did witness that at Humphrey terminal in Minneapolis about a year ago. This dingy lady starts going on about how she realized she left her drivers license & wallet on the counter just a few minutes after she left. The TSA agent asked her why she didn't turn around and go back and get it. Oh she didn't know. They were asking for library cards, insurance cards, car registration (not sure why she didn't have that when she just drove there), Etc. she kept insisting she had nothing. I finally got to keep moving through security and I never found out if she got to go through or not.

    I gave her the number for Delta today, and I told her she may need to take him up to the DMV and try to get a state ID. But then the trip will probably have to be postponed until it arrives. They give you a paper copy but I don't believe you can get through with that?

    Wisconsin is a state that offers both real and standard licenses. So I think we are covered on both ends until the final deadlines come into play.

    I know my daughter is getting a passport in Minnesota this year. Our trip to Disney will be in January before the dropdead date, but they have a ton of signs up at the airport already in Minneapolis that everyone needs to get a passport or other valid ID.
     
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    Oh and the same friend I am trying to help, made it to Vegas once without her drivers license. They went to a Sam's Club in Vegas and got her that for photo ID. On the return from Vegas TSA took the Sam's club along with some other cards she had in her purse....
     
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