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A couple observations on the Westgate ...

Discussion in 'Off-Strip Hotels' started by dmr, Aug 11, 2017.

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  1. dmr

    dmr Registered Abuser

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    On this last trip I did not stay at the Westgate, but I met a couple of cohorts there and we did breakfast at the buffet one morning.

    The first thing that was glaringly obvious is that they've majorly backed off on the timeshare salesdweebs!

    When I stayed there a year ago last April they were thick, pushy, and obnoxious, even hitting on solo women. They were literally at every choke point! This time, as I was preparing to beat them off with a stick, I was actually shocked not to find any of them to be obvious.

    I'm sure they had many complaints about that. I may even consider staying there again if this continues.

    The second item is that the buffet had significantly improved, at least for brunch on a weekend. It was $20-some, not cheap, but not as bad as some. I don't remember anything as outstanding, but everything I took was well-prepared and tasty. They did offer us unlimited champagne/mimosa/bm for ${mumble} extra, but we declined. Too early! :)
     
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    Good to hear. When I was planning my trip last April I was considering Westgate for something different. I decided against because of TripAdvisor reviews about the sales people. Thanks!
     
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    DMR was correct when she said the food at the Westgate was not cheap. The new food court in the race and sports book is much pricier than the old one and not as good.

    For example a 12" Italian sub was $16 in the old deli. When the new place opened a 6" sub was $14!! They later dropped the price to $12, but not much meat on the sub.
     
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    I wonder if the reason there isn't as much timeshare activity is because they aren't a Hilton anymore and so don't push the Hilton Grand Vacation timeshares anymore. But they haven't been a Hilton for about 5 years, wiki says they were LVH but not affiliated with Hilton. Anyway it is good that there aren't as many timeshare dweebs there.
     
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    Westgate is a big name in time shares too. The complaints were the worst when they took over the place.
     
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    What your actually running into is OPC's they are the people who get you to take timeshare tours. Westgates main bidness is timeshare. They must be doing something different. Probably looking for more prospects on the strip or downtown.
     
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    I strongly suspect this is due to their proximity to the convention center-- people there are largely expensing their food and don't give a shit about the price. What the timeshare guests do about it, I have no idea.
     
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    Except they were ALWAYS in close proximity to the convention center. That was true during the old pricing and the new pricing.

    Lastly, when I'm on a travel expense account, I'm certainly not having sandwich at a sportsbook deli.
     
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    All the times I have been to Vegas and I still haven't set foot in here.
     
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    LOL. The last time i was on the property was in 1987 when it was the Las Vegas Hilton. Never stayed there but i frequented the area around Paradise and Maryland Pkwy. I actually preferred the Landmark to gamble over the Hilton when off Strip.
     
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    I personally enjoyed The Westgate. I didn't get hassled by the timeshare people.

    Good selection of slots and VP. Didn't rate the food much though and missed just having a quick snack somewhere.

    But then again I always enjoy Vegas wherever I stay to be fair.
     
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    For a long time, the old LVH(ilton) had beer and wine included with the buffet, and that was well-known as one of a few convenient ways of burying C2H5OH on your expense report. On this last trip they did have an option for unlimited Mimosa/Champagne/BM at an extra cost for brunch and I do suspect that the receipt would be discreet about what this was. :)

    As for timeshares, the Westgate is owned/managed by one of the most notorious of the timeshare pushers! I admit that the main reason I've been staying at the SLS when doing something at the LVCC is due to the fact of how thick and pushy they were in April of 2016. They were like in the main entrance and at all of the choke points where it was impossible to walk around them. They were in the junction by the room elevators. They were thick in that hallway that ran north from the check-in desk to an exit by the Monorail. I repeated "I'm here on business and not interested in a timeshare" countless times as they approached me. At most places they hit primarily on those who look like couples, but at Westgate they were hitting on solo women, and I assume men too.

    There was a report here that at the check-in desk, the agent would "introduce" couples to a timeshare clown at the end of the check-in process.
     
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    Last time I was there it was to see Earth, Wind and Fire. I believe it was still Las Vegas Hilton at that time. A nice place overall, understated elegance is I how I would describe it. Benihannas was where I discovered Japanese "steak houses" existed. We're talking late to mid-80's here.
     
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    We skipped Wastegate on our last trip in May. Since the closing of the Star Trek experience, we only went once when it was LVH and once after they became Wastegate. I may check it out again on my next trip, but there just isn't anything to draw us there anymore.
     
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    This is exactly me as well. I used to hit the Star Trek casino nearly every visit to Vegas. Lots of fun, and the area near the old Hilton was hopping. We would hit the Westward Ho, travel down to the Stardust, play in the shitty circus, cross the street to the Riv and out the backdoor to the Hilton.

    When they switched to the LVH (Hilton refused to lend them the name after they couldn't keep the property standards up), the only changes were pretty much how abandoned and nonsensical the Star Trek area became, they had a little dance floor plopped right in the middle for some reason. When I stayed at the SLS, and took the monorail right past Westgate, we dropped in. The only difference then was them boarding up the Star Trek casino completely, to make a timeshare area out of it.

    Easy pass for me then, and even easier now that it is on an island. All of the latest reviews, beyond the moaning over timeshare people, are saying rooms are being bait and switched unless you pay to upgrade or that the property in general is getting more rundown by the day.
     
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    I always wondered about that dance floor. I walked by there a number of times as I walked from the Monorail to the LVCC north halls back then. I NEVER remember seeing any activity along the line of a deejay or band setting up or anything. I don't remember any signage promoting it as a Hot New Club (tm) or lounge or anything. It's as if they put it in there, let it sit, and ripped it out.
     
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    Went to a conference in early 2000s at the Hilton. What I remember most was the classy design of the public areas with lots of white marble and crystal chandelliers. It was like gambling in DC's Kennedy Center. Although well maintained, it felt kind of empty, past its prime. I had a strip view room and found myself looking out the window and singing in my head "so close, so close and yet so far... " (The monorail wasn't open yet.) I really liked the property but never went back, not even to the casino. Too remote.
     
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    Never again! I stayed there almost 2 years ago for a wedding and waited 1 hour to check in.When you check in they want to escort you to your room and sell a time share.I said no thanks because I was already not happy about a 1 hour wait.The groom getting married had a suite reserved for him and they gave him a room with 2 double beds.His Dad protested and the night of the wedding changed his room.After all the money the parents spent for this wedding and the guest staying there they treated them poorly.Time share people everywhere harassing you whenever you get off the elevator.Never again!
     
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    In all fairness to Westgate, when I stayed there in 2016, I literally walked right up to the desk. No line. This was on a Sunday afternoon.

    I was bracing for this, but they did not try it. I kind of assumed they did this for couples on vacation as opposed to solos on business.

    This was the main reason I did not stay at Westgate since, even though I've done two LVCC events since.

    When I saw first hand the back-off on the pushy timeshare sales, I even considered using them again. However, I've liked it at the SLS (even though the rooms are TINY) and if the SLS sale does not change things too much, I'll probably do it again. My next potential event at LVCC is not until April so things may indeed change. The other good thing is that SLS uses the Marriott/Starwood network for their reservations and our travel department can easily book them. With some independents they have difficulties booking corporate rates, so if they drop Starwood and do not have one of the major networks or aggregators next year, I may indeed be back at Westgate.
     
  20. BobLasVegas

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    I visited Westgate last year for the first time since probably 2003 or so. Not impressed. I may go back
    sometime, but it just seemed not worth it for me to make the effort. I did enjoy the old Star Trek days.
    By contrast, I really liked the SLS. Very nice there. ( but I did make a stop for pics at the ELVIS statue at
    Westgate! )
     
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