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Video Poker .50 JOB three coin versus .25 five coin

Discussion in 'Video Poker' started by Sam Clemens, Aug 16, 2019.

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  1. Sam Clemens

    Sam Clemens Tourist

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    Hello and thank you to VMB for all the great insight I have gotten here. been going to Vegas for many years and had trouble finding " my game " turns out I love VP and have with the help of the bright minds been doing good over the last couple years. I finally get room comps and have great trips being armed with info.

    That said I have been having trouble on my own determining the effect of playing 3 coin .50 JOB instead of 5 coin .25. I looked at it as a potential higher return while also increasing my coin in per hour and still staying within my bankroll.


    I tend to play JOB @ the BHB and also at the 4 Queens bars. I also spend some time playing DDB in an effort to get better at it in casino conditions and not just on a trainer.... its a work in progress. Lastly I always spend some time and bankroll playing the dollar coin droppers at the Cal until I make money or go broke LOL. It's just a fun game to me.

    Any way, I had this thought about the denomination change as I evolve as a better VP player. I tried to figure it out on the Wizard web site but couldn't nail it down Any input is welcomed.
     
  2. Sfgiants13

    Sfgiants13 VIP Whale

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    You're giving up quite a bit of equity by not max betting if you hit a royal. But at the end of the day do whatever you prefer.
     
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  3. julia

    julia Craps, VP & Microbews

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    Better to stay at the lower denomination and bet max (5coins). No point to betting 3.
     
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  4. nostresshere

    nostresshere Mr. Anti Debit Card

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    (everything assume the exact same paytable - right?)

    $1.50 vs $1.25

    Lower bets means it last longer, unless you always win which means the higher bet will get you more money.

    Play for ADT purposes means the higher bet will result in slightly higher ADT - but will it make a difference in what comps you get? For example if you were to get a free room at either level of play, then no big deal.

    Playing $1.50 to reach higher point/adt play also means you are giving up on the Royal bonus for 5 coin.
     
  5. Sam Clemens

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    Thanks for the input everyone. Yes, giving up on the Royal pay out was the biggest down side I could see. Now playing at a 4 coin pay table .50 versus the 3 coin .50 all pays would be higher then the 5 coin .25 but every 47,000 hands I would miss out on the 1500 extra for the royal plus get me to 2 bucks a hand for points....... If I'm looking at the numbers correctly.
     
  6. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Yeah, it's not worth doing this imo. I'd never recommend betting 3 or 4, even 2 is questionable.

    Bet 5 is preferred followed by bet 1 if you're playing a higher denomination that you really can't afford to bet 5, but has a superior paytable vs. lower denominations.
     
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  7. Sam Clemens

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    Thank you for your input Tring. It was just some thoughts and questions I had. not necessarily good thoughts LOL .
    Seems to gain higher potential for return in a dollar stand point is to play higher volatility games at a the max bet .25 denomination or to go fewer times with a larger bankroll and play the higher , .50 or 1.00 denomination at max bet on JOB.
    not trying to get rich or anything , just trying to keep the excitement high.
     
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  8. tringlomane

    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Yeah if you're looking to change volatility, I would recommend switching denominations when you're looking for more or less variance. Especially when all the paytables are identical.
     
  9. wanker751

    wanker751 Dutch Rudder Enthusiast

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    Plus at MSS I think you give up a scratcher betting 3 vs 5 for 4oak
     
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    tringlomane STP Addicted Beer Snob

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    Yeah that's a good point too. Scratchers can add up. Well, except for me, because I've never got a damn quad there. :bang:
     
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  11. nostresshere

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    Of course... the lower denom/bet reduces risk of W2-g. If you have to pay fed tax of say 20% and state tax of 5%... that really does not make much sense to get the damned royal.

    then again, I have not seen a Royal for 10+ years - so....
     
  12. Sam Clemens

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    this lends itself to what I'm thinking about. why worry about a hand I may never get dealt ? 10 years of playing 4 credit .50 JOB versus 5 credit .25 JOB I would say goes a long way to making up the loss of 1500.00 on the Royal as it's the only 1 hand that will pay more. And your bankroll doesn't have to be that much more since its the same game and the odds of each hand is the same. not like switching to DDB . But if the math says I'm wrong then I guess I'm wrong.
     
  13. Init2winit

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    I’ll never forgive myself if I hit a RF but I didn’t max bet.
     
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  14. spinette

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    In that case, volatility is your friend. JB, BP, and DW are very tame on the scale compared to DDB, TDB, certain deuces wild variants, and slot machines.
     
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  15. Darreningreenwood

    Darreningreenwood Low-Roller

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    My first royal was like this, back in 2010ish. Stopped by the bar to get a "free" beer while gambling. Played single credit (before they really cared too much). Plus I was really a low roller back then. Hit a royal, the couple just down the way was thrilled...until they saw it was single credit. The bartender just shook his head and walked away.

    I consider that a "faux royal". My first and only real royal was last April when I hit playing .50...only because I wanted to get through my $20 and get to the blackjack table.
     
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