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4Q VP Players - What Do Your Offers Look Like?

Discussion in 'Comps' started by 3OfDiamonds, Oct 9, 2019.

  1. 3OfDiamonds

    3OfDiamonds Low-Roller

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    From what I have gathered here, it seems like 1000 points a day (or 800?) qualifies for comped rooms plus ample FP; if you stay regularly at 4Q and play exclusively or mostly VP, how many points do you earn daily on average, and what do your offers look like? I know ADT is probably a big factor but it seems like 4Q may be generous in that regard :) On a related matter, will talking to a host do much good in terms of a backend comp (this will be my first visit there, so no offers yet ;)), and do they require you spend your points before comping any additional off? Any insight you can provide would be greatly appreciated - thanks :thumbsup:
     
  2. mikel123

    mikel123 Not A Lawyer

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    If you're generating about 1,000 points per day, that would get you about $50 in daily comps. It's one of the best programs in town in that regard. I was doing about 500 per day and was generating a couple of free nights and $40FP.

    Have you checked out the vpFREE2 page for the Four Queens player's club? It details the club a little better since their website is pretty bare bones. https://www.vpfree2.com/casino/four-queens-hotel-casino/club
     
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  3. 3OfDiamonds

    3OfDiamonds Low-Roller

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    Yes, vpFREE2 actually was one of the factors which led me to pick 4Q (that and no resort fees :)) - based on the ratios on the 4Q website and vpFREE2 it looks like 1,000 points a day is $31.25 in cash back and $62.50 in comps for starters... I’ll see what point I can comfortably play to and see what results :jester:
     
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  4. JulianC

    JulianC Tourist

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    10k of daily VP coin-in (or maybe a bit more) would get you the second-best offers from Four Queens -- 3 nights anytime (save for blackout dates), $300 of FP, $50 food and beverage credit. I believe the top-level offers start at $13k-15k of daily VP coin-in. The generous comp dollar earning encourages higher amounts of VP coin-in, and the comp dollars alone could cover most of the cost of the room (and, if you are not booked on an offer, you do not have to clear out your comp dollars before asking for any deserved back end comps). For VP play, only one other place in town might be competitive in terms of earned comp dollars and cashback / free play.
     
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  5. mikel123

    mikel123 Not A Lawyer

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    Err... you are correct. It's too late to math. It's half on the 10/7 DB machines, but those rates are still pretty generous. QQQQ is a very nice property - if you're not in a premium (south tower) room, I'd strongly recommend it. A $20 sandwich has worked for a suite upgrade in the past for me as well.
     
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  6. alexlifeson

    alexlifeson Low-Roller

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    That is not quite correct. 1000 points is $25 in cash and $50 in comps. The cashback is 40 points per dollar and comps are 20 points per dollar.
     
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  7. Grant1982

    Grant1982 High-Roller

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    I cant figure it out at all, sometimes they are throwing $100 in FP at me and 2 or 3 nights free, and sometimes they are only offering me a BOGO during the week. I am pretty certain they dont look at a trip theo, but rather break it down per day, because I am known to stumble in there and run about $500 through then head to another casino.
     
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  8. Vegas Pilgrim

    Vegas Pilgrim Low-Roller

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    That I wouldn’t do. A low day or no play (like happened to me when I checked in at 1130pm thanks to Air Canada) can screw things up.

    Since I was a BConned refugee, first headed over to QQQQ December 2018. Played couple of days at Two Mikes bar, stayed there a few times this year. 800 point average per day, and I’ve got the three nights $300 offer, tournaments, etc. Instead of driving around all over town, can play at QQQQ, The D, and Binions and lose all the money I want. Have more room nights than I can possibly use. And have not even walked across the street now to go to a BConned property.

    Again, Boyd didn’t want VP players like me. QQQQ doesn’t seem to mind. No complaints except noise from FSE ETC, but host will take of things.
     
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  9. aaisack

    aaisack High-Roller

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    I was getting 2 nights an $80 free play, now I'm getting 3 nights and $200 free play. I'm 90% VP, and I do 5-10k in coin in per day.
     
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  10. Mike Aclin

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    From VPFREE........

    • $8 Coin-In = 1 Point on Most Video Poker
    • Cash: 40 Points = $1 (0.3125%)
    • Earned Comps: 20 Points = $1 (0.625%)
    • $16 Coin-In = 1 Point on Machines with 10/7 DB
    • Cash: 40 Points = $1 (0.1563%)
    • Earned Comps: 20 Points = $1 (0.3125%)
    • Cash AND Comps
    From the mouth of my host, Jen, 4K a day will get you a comped room.
    I play around 6K a day and get three nights, tournaments, and $200 FP.
    They also have 100% DDB at 50 cent and dollar at all bars. I don’t play them so I’m not sure how the points accumulate on those. Someone here might post.
    Cash back is great. Comps accrue fast enough to feed a family of 12 every day (well, maybe family of two. But you never have to ask your host for a meal comp).
     
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  11. 3OfDiamonds

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    Oops, yes, I was conflating the percentage payback with the points... and then moved a zero somewhere... no math at night! :haha:
     
  12. fenway68

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    What IF...someone were to mix in some table play eg Craps and UTH?
     
  13. theoldcoach

    theoldcoach Tourist

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    As long as it is part of a bigger play do, no problems. It can only help overall. The problems arise when you do a short hit and run like Grant1982.
     
  14. DDB

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    I just got my first mailer from QQQQ. One day last summer I ran $33,000 on mostly $1 JOB. The next day I played briefly at the bar on .50 after using a comp.

    The offer was 3 nights, $70 in food and $400FP.
     
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  15. FABismonte

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    Nice. Sounds like you hit the max mailer. Were you offered a suite by any chance? BTW, others on this Board have said that if you use comp points at QQQQ you do not trigger a gambling day so maybe you should not "play briefly" with a card even if you come in for a meal.
     
  16. Grant1982

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    The DDB at the bar is 99.96, and gives back 0.3125% in comps, same as the floor (except machines over 100%).
     
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  17. Grant1982

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    Meh, I have comped rooms all over, but even if I didnt rooms are so cheap downtown it's not worth me staying away from 4Q if I only want to play for 30 minutes or so. I spend a lot of my vacation figuring out how to maximize comps, I'm not going to let it control my vacation though. Now missing out on more free play sucks, but $200 doesnt last long anyways when your throwing thousands a night into a machine.
     
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  18. Vegas Vick

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    I stayed in June on a three nights free offer. Put $8K through per day on VP. Stayed an additional weeknight, which was comped by a host without me even asking.

    I just received a Nov/Dec offer of three nights and $200 freeplay, but no free food.

    I've had the $20 trick work every time except the last trip. The hotel was near capacity, and I arrived very late Friday night.

    Based on my conversation with one of the hosts, average daily play is much more important than theoretical.
     
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  19. Mike Aclin

    Mike Aclin Tourist

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    Yeah, you are right. I ask my host with them having 100% + games, and having some multi point promotional dates, had the ever trespassed anyone. I have seen people pounding machines during these promotions. But she said no, they don’t think anyone had been trespassed.
     
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  20. alexlifeson

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    That's quite alright. We all make mistakes.