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22 days of VP in downtown Vegas May 21st to June 13th

Discussion in 'Vegas Trip Reports' started by wasilla, May 29, 2019.

  1. wasilla

    wasilla Low-Roller

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    I had to earn 5,000 points to get the hundred free play. I thought that was fair, and I realize I was misleading. I don't know anyone who bases their promotions on multipliers. Its always base points in my experience. Sorry that I didn't make it clear that I was referring to earning base points when I talked about the 1,000.
    As for the dealt Royal, I felt pretty stupid tapping on the screen and pressing buttons trying to "fix" it. My neighbors were nice enough to act like they didn't notice.
     
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  2. wasilla

    wasilla Low-Roller

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    You've obviously been there and can vouch for the rave review I'm going to give.
     
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  3. wasilla

    wasilla Low-Roller

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    I was going to mention the value of progressive in my D report. My rough estimate is that I won over an extra $175 which amounts to an extra 1.75% return on the ten grand I ran through. Obviously everybody's mileage will very every session, but I don't think that I had previously given the Vue Bar progressive the respect it deserved.
     
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  4. wasilla

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    Tuesday, 5/28/19 at Jerry's Nugget
    I'd spent a lot of time playing VP over the last 4 days and wanted to do something different. Normally my break is getting up late, walking down to Hop Nuts brewery and watching TV. I've been hearing about this Jerry's Nugget place though and wanted to give it a try. The local VP friend I played next to last night and who had kept the progressive value of quads lower than I wished, told me the Jerry's wasn't as dangerous as people speculated. I was still up late and took a bus (I think 113) to Jerry's. The bus went by some desolate areas were I am sure that homeless people congregated at and some homeless people were even on the same bus as I was. What there wasn't, was any hassle from anyone. I got off the bus after about 10 minutes, crossed the street, and I was there. There is security outside and no one who is problematic seems to get in. The casino is filled with budget gamblers, so I felt right at home.
    I went there because they have a senior promotion on Tuesdays and a new player sign up promotion as well. On Tuesdays Seniors can get a $5 MP, 5 x points and earn a $10 food voucher after earning 550 points and good for 24 hours after earning it. The New member first day bonus is a $5 comp at 50 points, a t shirt at 100 points, a $20 comp at 250 points, a $40 dining reward good for 24 hours at 500 points and $100 FP at 1,000 points. For VP $2 in = 1 point. After plying over $74,000 in 4 days, I figured this would be a cruise, I got there early afternoon and wondered if they would also take all my coupons. They did. I had $20 FP and $20 MP's before I even started. The player's club was extremely friendly and encouraging. Everything but the MP's loaded onto the card automatically.
    I had planned to play 25 JOB. With the point multiplier it was practically an even game and I was almost guaranteed to go home a winner with an extra $125 in FP and $25 in MP's.
    I knew that Jerry's JOB were coin droppers. I play them at EC. Their slow, but doable. Jerry's coin droppers are the old school to EC's old school.. Pond water moves faster than these machines play. First, they don't take currency. You have to manually insert coins each time, because the machines pay out each win. For some reason, handling all those quarters also kept blackening my hand. It took over 2 hours to lose $20, but I wasn't accumulating many points and I was pretty hungry. I found a multi meter progressive 9/6 DDB, played and lost $100. By then I had enough points for everything but the $100 FP. I used my $10 senior voucher on a monte Crisco and fries. It was a flash back to my youth. I haven't had one in decades and haven't seen one in years .Jerry's famous café has a giant menu and a board full of daily specials. They also have an in house bakery. The waitress took my menu, but I grabbed another one. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Want Greek, Mexican, or steak? They've got you covered.
    After a late lunch/breakfast I decided to play my MP's at the craps table. I lost 3 consecutive plays on the pass line. Each time the shooter rolled a 5 and later sevened out. If someone knows a better MP play, I'm all ears.
    I went back to JOB and lost another $30. I had over a 1,000 points at that stage. Coin droppers don't allow FP, so I went back to DDB..I ended the day down $105, not factoring in points. I really had a horrendous streak, but I played so slow and had so much FP, that my losses where limited. I'm probably one of the few people who manage to lose with that first day promotion.
    I wasn't hungry after my lunch and took a bus back to the D. At 10:00 PM I took the bus back and ate dinner with my $40 dining reward. The porterhouse with fries, vegies, salad and garlic bread was delicious and less than $20. That left $20 for dessert! I ate cherry pie there. I took home a cinamin roll, fudge cake and a huge éclair. (No one told me about the strawberry ring Zing!) It was so heavy that I could have been carrying books. It wasn't lost on the server that I had just been there 7 hours ago. Think that makes me a regular. I caught an 11:30 pm bus without incident.
    I truly had a great time losing. A claim I've never made about any other casino. If I had to lose $105 somewhere, I'm glad that Jerry's got it. I still have $25 in comps and over 5,000 points so next time I have a free Tuesday, I know where I'm spending it.

    Tomorrow I'm planning to visit Binions for the first time since they took out the Motherload. I have $30 FP and up to 500 matching points that I plan to use to play a machine with a $1,350 Royal progressive. I admit that this is scraping the floor of promotions, but Binions was pretty generous with comps when people actually played VP there. Who knows how loose they might be now. If I hit a run it might lead to some good mailers.
     
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  5. zignerlv

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    This is already my favorite trip report in recent memory, but now with this refreshingly dare to be different Jerry's entry, it gets even better!

    I do not wish to hijack your thread (this board has significant hijack issues in threads... so hopefully posting this link won't lead to comments about my post, other than the pics), but others might be interested in seeing some of these desserts you discuss at Jerry's, I posted a Jerry's section in my last trip report, with pics of the desserts. https://deamonlv.blogspot.com/2019/02/february-trip-report-featuring-pig-and_19.html#jerrys

    "No one told me about the strawberry ring Zing!" - Well I tried to! ;-)
     
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  6. wasilla

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    Thank you Zignerly. I was at 4 Q's during the pig promotion, but forgot to get mine. I can only speculate as to the riches that my own jeweled pig would have bestowed upon me.
    Seriously, you're a good writer and your Jerry's pictures are fantastic. I think that you sell the place the way I wanted to. If any couples want to go who want to play JOB, you might consider playing on the same card. If the $40 dining reward doesn't cover both meals AND dessert, the $25 in comps you'll have will more than cover the difference. Then you guys can go twice. It is impossible for a normal human to consume $40 of food in that café. Of course they do have coctails, so you could get drunk as well as stuffed.
     
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  7. mwig

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    I love the Vue bar. If I could change one thing it would be to make the .50 8/5 BP a progressive also. I'm loving this trip report!! Our play styles are identical with the exception that I rarely venture into dollars and just resign myself to marathon sessions to maximize the promos. Who am I kidding? If I went to dollars and finished a promo in half the time I would just end up playing somewhere else anyway.
     
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    As a side note, I appreciate both the support and lack of skepticism from the members here. I expected someone to call BS on the improbable run I reported on. I recently retired from teaching in a prison and tend to be skeptical of improbable stories my own self. I met gutshotSF at BHB yesterday. He got to hear Jose confirm my RF's there and see the tax forms for the 4 Q's hits. While he started a thread here, I think that he is currently on a gambling and vegas touring frenzy and isn't currently paying much attention to this board. I don't know how this story ends, but I think people will enjoy it more as fact than fiction.
     
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    No skepticism here. Loving your detailed and informative report. Though I stay on the strip, I love promo running and will use a lot of info you provided.

    I've also tried out Jerry's, a few times, including this past October with my brother Champster1. ;)
     
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    I think your TR attracts the less casual, more knowledgeable readers, who know the highs and lows of play. I personally have no need to hear that a 3rd party backs up your good run on this trip! I don't doubt any detail of your report in the slightest. Most of your plays are on positive, or near positive plays, as opposed to some slot player playing 93% payout machines, claiming daily wins.

    I have been entertained at the very few cases in the past on this board where people have questioned the truthfulness of reports of wins. There was one thread a couple of years ago where people dissected every element of a persons royal flush picture to claim that it wasn't real. (It had to do whether it was a ticket out paid royal or not). I called out some of the attempts to discredit the pic as being just uninformed. I am certain it was real.

    I would say in all the TR's I've read here, there was only one case, years ago that I felt was certainly suspect (many, many, many high, mostly slot handpays by a low-mid, at best, roller to the tune of well into 6 figures).

    I've been waiting, (and still are), for someone to call out my year (my part 2 TR I posted today involves more wins). I already have my reply ready. I'll say, have you gone back and read all my other TRs? How many talk about bad, painful losing trips/runs? Well why would I do that if I wanted to exaggerate my record?
     
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    I agree with the other sentiments. If you run $10k or more through a VP machine there are going to be crazy highs and lows. My biggest loss came on a trip where I flopped a royal on a triple play machine on day 1 and did nothing but lose after that. The biggest win was on a trip with 1 royal per day for 7 straight days. My wife and I both play somewhat equal amounts so the 1 per was between the two of us.

    My real goal is to have a great vacation and come home with the same amount of money I left home carrying. Is that too much too ask? Volatility is rough (unless it is your friend for that trip)
     
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  12. wasilla

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    Thanks to all! Weds, 5/29/19

    I decided to save Binions for tomorrow. It's senior day at MSS and I still need over a 100 TC's to remain Sapphire. I got a late start at 10 AM at BHB and ordered my usual coffee and Baily's. I'm still playing quarters to maximize EV. After bouncing up and down, I lost $100 at 11:40. After a long draught I finally hit 2's at 1:10 and K's at 1:12. I broke for lunch a few minutes later down another $50
    Lunch was a free senior buffet which was fine for a free meal. When I swiped my card to get the buffet, I saw that I had forgot to swipe for the 11 x multiplier. That blew $13 worth of points.
    I wasn't too motivated today. I wound up taking a 7 hour break when I napped, caught up on the news, did a trip report entry, and wandered a bit. Would have been a good Hop Nuts day, but I didn't plan for a long break. It just got extended a bit at a time.
    I was back at BHB at 8:20 PM. Since I wasn't staying there, I wasn't too concerned about a lower play day.
    When I ordered a beer I got an IPA, but asked about the possibility of a triple 7 Saison later. Then I realized he was working the bar by himself that night, so I realized I was out of luck on the eclectic beer front. About 10 minutes later he comes with a magically summoned Saison and says he has a pitcher of it! He asked a server to get it. So my night is planned now.
    An Australian women sits next to me with her group and is seriously playing BJ. Its got a poor return and I ask her if she plays VP. She wants to, and chooses JOB. I give her my strategy sheet, but she won't use it. She is here for a poker tournament and is playing like she would at a table, holding a high card with a pair, inside straights etc. So now I'm explaining how to play hands. She introduces me to her friends as someone helping her, but I had so far "helped" her out of 100 credits. I offered to show her friends this trick as well, but they declined.
    This slowed my play, but over 4 1/2 hours I hit 6 quads. I quit at 12:45AM with 2605 points for the day, of which less than half got multiplied. I had $16 worth of SC's and got a $20 brewpub comp through a slot attendant that I'll use tomorrow.. I won $50 in the evening session and was down $100 for the day. I had a senior day $5 food credit that I took with the pitcher's last glass of Saison to the brew pub where I got the late night happy hour quesadilla, and BBQ potato chips. I felt buzzed all night. I usually drink slower.
    I have to move to the Golden Gate tomorrow..
     
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    A Royal a day for a week?! That is quite a routine you got into. My goal is the same as yours. Minus tips and transport, I would like a free vacation complete with an intact bankroll. I leave my points in Vegas during winning trips and cash them in on the losing ones to cover my losses. I actually plan for my bankroll to last forever. It wouldn't be a big deal to replace it, but preserving it is part of the fun.
     
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    Everyone seems to like the 777 Saisson myself included!
     
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  15. Viva Las Vegas

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    Awesome trip report and trip! Only disappointment on my end was that you didn't get to Hopnuts through your last update! :drunk:

    Other breweries I like walking to downtown include Teneya Creek on the other side of the railroad tracks past MSS (less than a mile total), Pizza Rock for happy hour and decent draft and bottle selection, Banger Brewery and Atomic Liquors for their draft taps.

    One more bus trip (or take the free Boyd shuttle from The Cal to Sam's Town) is the Boulder Express to Sam's Town, and hit up Aces and Ales. I never tried the 777 saison (their other beers are so-so) so I look forward to a pour next month.

    Hope you keep hitting to close out your excellent vacation!!!
     
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    Alright Viva Las Vegas! I get that Banger, Tenaya, and Hop Nuts can brew some beer and a casino brewery has a hard time keeping up. 777's June beer is a Mango Wheat. I don't even drink wheats, and I challenge you to try it and call it so-so. The Saison was taken off to make may for it. Apparently I and 93 octane were of the few Saison drinkers at MSS. It was their March beer but it lasted for months before they took it off. Folks are going to drown themselves drinking the Mango Hefe.
    Do you want to talk about the walk to Tenaya. I don't have a car, but would like to go. I walk to Hop Nuts every other trip and love it. Never drank a beer in Banger, But I had a lot of their IPA and Brown when the Cortez used to carry it. I don't have a smart phone. I've taken the Sam's town shuttle, but have no idea where Aces and Ales is. I prefer my beers draft either at the brewery or the brewery's tasting room. If its free, I ignore those preferences. Thank you for sharing this.
     
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  17. wasilla

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    Thursday 5/30 at Binion's.
    When I got to GG, they didn't have a room available, so I gave them my phone number, left my bag and headed to Binions's
    I'm not a long time Vegas gambler, but my parents would take my sister and I Vegas on road trips from Tucson over 45 years ago. I remember going to a lot of casinos that are only museum signs now. Binion's is still around, but its's different now. As an adult tourist I use find myself at the old basement coffee shop late at night. They had people like me that barely had enough money to travel, young lovers happy to find a sit down meal they could afford, busted out gamblers that couldn't afford a cab fare home, but could scrape together enough to get a breakfast with a ham steak as big as their plate, and a number of folks just figuring out their next play. That was gone by the time I started really gambling. It was a while before I figured out that between the 8/5 BP progressive, points, and mother load swipes, and generous up front FP, that there was a play to be made there. For a while it was mother load swipes x 2. Then they took the mother load and the game. The last time I played I hit 4 aces within minutes, but didn't here enough credits accumulating. I checked the pay table and saw that all 4 OAKs paid 30. I cashed out and left.
    I've got $30 FP and 500 points to double for a cash value of $12.50 and a comp value of $25. I PLAN TO PAY 9/7 DB ON A MACHINE WITH OVER A $1,350 progressive RF. If things go bad, I'll bail. All they offer me now is $20 FP and discounted rooms. I figure I'm an advantage player to 500 points, after that it is a casino edge. I've hit a $1400 + progressive there last year, and am not going to ignore that in my calculation as unlikely as the hit might be. If I hit 500 points I will continue to play as long as I'm winning. I use to get 2 free nights and #40 to #80 in FP. I'd like to see that again. Before its changes, I'd planned to gamble there enough to match my 4 Q's offers, but things have changed. A couple WE nights would make my vegas planning much easier,
    I started the 9/7 DB at 1 PM. I hit tens at 1:13 and lost my hundred and $30 FP at 1:57. I only had 98 points. Decisions, decisions! I had an advantage and a bankroll. I put another $100 in. At 2:00 I was dealt 4 aces. I few minutes later I replaced a $350 ticket with a new hundred. I hit queens at 2:13 and again at 2:36. I was dealt tens at 2:37 and replaced a $200 ticket with a new hundred. I lost that hundred at 3:30, but that next one lasted until I hit another set of aces at 4:13. By that time, the couple who had gobbled up 4 OAKs at the D had also come. I could enjoy good conversation and good hits. I replaced a $200 ticket with a new hundred. I lost that hundred at 4:38. I had 330 points. My notes say that I was up $200, but there might be a $50 or so mistake in my math. These people distract me from my record keeping.
    I left to check in and eat lunch. They remained gambling on a singly card to hit 500 points.
    My room was small as is commonly reported. #207 was quiet and clean.. The water pressure was quite strong and water temp control wasn't a problem. My window would open, but vegas was unseasonably cool so temps weren't a problem.
    I had 2 meals worth of comps to use before June so I went to the D for lunch
    My friends were still gambling. I hit Bennys for a free mirror pond and returned to my machine at 6:30 PM. They were done a few minutes later. I hit aces again at 7:00, fours at7:12, fives at 8:52, and I was back down to my hundred but in at 9:32 when I quit, Double Bonus! I was up $200 and earned 606 points. 500 of those will be doubled. That was better than expected, but I don't know if it will get me my rooms back without another go.

    Tomorrow I play Golden Gate 8/5 BP progressive. I've got a $10 FP coupon and $40 FP over the next 2 days as well as the up to $100 FP for $10,000 played.
     
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  18. wasilla

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    Hi Joe. If your still following this, I talked to Jose. He remembered the machine and I wrote it down somewhere and lost the note. If I get over the embarrassment I'll ask again. I think it was #11. I really wanted to tell you that our drinking preferences came up. I drink beer, but like red wine. He gave me a sample of your choice reserve and it's quite good. Kudos for your palate.
     
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    Jose is a great bartender and so is Robert the barback.
    @wasilla That is the J Lohr cab and if Jose isn't there, or you are not known, you might not be able to get it. They finally upgraded their house wine from Liberty Crap, I mean Creek to some other one, which in a pinch is OK. FYI, Cal has no premium wines. That's where I've had the house wine. Same at both places.
     
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    It's about a 3/4-mile walk from Sam's north along Nellis Blvd. I haven't been to the Nellis Blvd location, but went to the Tenaya location.

    They have 20 taps and some should be compable with VP play. However, the best quarter game when I went to the Tenaya location a few years ago was 6/5 Bonus. So if you don't want to drink fast and play slow, you could be better off paying for the beer.
     
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