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2 closed Downtown casinos to open temporarily to preserve licenses

Discussion in 'Downtown Hotels' started by Blonde_4_ever, Jun 7, 2017.

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  1. Blonde_4_ever

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    2 closed Las Vegas casinos to open temporarily to preserve licenses
     
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    I read that earlier. it looks like I will miss it by a day or two. I will be arriving June 29th or 30th. I've never been to one of these "trailer station" casinos before.
     
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    coming in on 27th and staying at Cal. will walk over and check it out
     
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    curious why Derek would need to keep both licenses active. Since Mermaids is supposed to be incorporated into LVC. Unless he has other plans for that license. He didn't care about LaBayou, since he tore it down since it will be incorporated into GG
     
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    If they will not have the snack bar open, then it is not really Mermaids. I always met the greatest people there late at night. Fattening foods really brings people together sometimes ;)
     
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    Just a guess but maybe there are laws or regulations that old licences don't need to follow? Like gg bring exempt from having food...

    Shot in the dark
     
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    Having 2 licenses rather than one gives him more flexibility.
     
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    Why did Mermaids close? I always liked the girls giving beads outside.
     
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    They are keeping the licenses alive because it is easier to work with existing licenses than trying to apply for new licenses. They want to keep the LVC license active so by law they have to open for a few hours to be grandfathered in with the old LVC license. That doesn't mean that the place has to be called LVC, it just means that the license will be active for a few more years, giving Derek more time to build the place.

    I guess they are keeping the mermaids license just in case, maybe they might want to open a small casino so they have that extra license to use or sell.

    They did a similar thing with the showboat license a number of years ago, they opened for a day in a trailer to keep the license active. I don't know what happened to that one or if they sold that license.

    It isn't easy trying to apply for a new license, too much scrutiny and there is too much of a possibility of the commission denying the license so they just keep the existing licenses that are grandfathered in. Also because of new rules for casinos the old licenses are able to be grandfathered in so don't have to follow those same new rules.
     
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    The LVC. The Las Vegas Club.

    I've mentioned it several times in the past but I feel the name "Las Vegas Club" is a really GREAT name for a casino.

    It conjures up images of old Vegas when men wore suits and women wore evening dresses. It has a romantic aura to it's name, a feeling of belonging to something exclusive and mysterious.

    Will the new creation still be called The Las Vegas Club? I really hope so. It's Iconic.

    And while they're at it Derek and Boyd should get together and build a mezzanine bridge that joins the LVC and the Cal. Win Win for everybody concerned.
     
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    Very doubtful. They didn't purchase the name with the property.
     
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    Imagine if they make the vegas club that whole area from mermaids to the end of the street. that could be quite a place. hopefully they dont make it too nice. Plenty of that in the strip. just a good decent grind joint is great.
     
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    Older unrestricted licenses often have fewer conditions on them. Mermaids had a license that did not require a hotel. Binions also apparently had that kind of license, which allowed them to just close the hotel. My understanding is that new unrestricted licenses will only be granted to properties with at least 200 rooms. For example, Lucky Dragon has 203 rooms.

    Theoretically, the Mermaids license might allow the Stevens' to rebuild the casino area first and begin to operate it as the hotel tower is built. Pure speculation, but since the property has been fallow for nearly 2 years, any revenue would be a good thing, and it would revitalize that end of the street.

    The Granite Gaming offices on 1st St are going to be demolished, then Mermaids and the other properties on Fremont as they open up enough room to do the major demolition. The initial plan was to demolish the south tower and add on to the north tower, but apparently, those plans have changed. Derek said the north tower was designed to be about twice as tall as it is, but given the deferred maintenance that was LVC's calling card, I'm guessing the structural engineer's report wasn't good.

    The only rumor I've heard about naming was "Grandissimo," which was the name of Jay Sarno's never-build mega resort.
     
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    They do it because the licenses are hard to get and expensive.

    There are actually still quite a few casinos that have been closed for decades that still do this, have slot machines set up on their property for a day every two years to keep the license active. In some cases they don't even have a building because the property is a vacant lot so they put down a portable trailer with a generator and set up a few machines for a few hours.
     
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    Based on their land purchases and demolition plans I would expect the new place to displace The Golden Nugget at the top. You just don't go through all that trouble to open a grind joint.

    The only hope you could out for is that they'll leverage those two licenses into one main large high end property and one smaller low roller place similar in footprint to Mermaids.
     
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    tough to imagine them doing this much demolition to build a grind joint, yeah. This is going to be a nice property
     
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    I like the Las Vegas Club name. But I liked many of the old names, I thought they were cool. Dunes, Sands, Desert Inn, Stardust, Westward Ho. Love to have some of those back.
     
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    just call it the Westward Sand Dunes in the Desert Stardust
     
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    I remember actually being in town in 2011 or '12 when Station Casinos did the temp trailer thing with the Showboat/Castaways land. KTNV-TV had a news reporter staked out there for their AM newscast, so I was aware they were doing it later that day. A couple of hours later, I took the Boulder Hwy bus to the Skyline and it went right past the plot of land. There was literally a house-trailer with a port-a-potty right next to it! I wanted to take a pic but the bus went by so quick I couldn't whip my camera out in time.
     
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    Yeah, I'm a little afraid that this new development might be more "upscale" and might make the other hotels show their age, which in turn might cause some redevelopment or changes. I wouldn't be surprised if Boyd implodes the Fremont and build a newer hotel casino within the next 15 years (you heard it first here!). The place is really starting to show her age. The Cal is being renovated and MSS was renovated to create what you see now so isn't as "aged" as the Fremont.

    Would be nice if they would build a walkway between the Cal and the new Stevens hotel but these are 2 competing companies so it is doubtful that Derek would make it easier for Boyd customers to get to the FSE easier. I think he knows that most of the Boyd customers aren't "upscale" to gamble at $10 and $15 tables when they could gamble at the Cal or MSS with their $5 tables.

    Unfortunately I'm not much of an "upscale" person, I hardly visit the GN and I don't like the loud music at the D and GG so it is doubtful that I will gamble or stay much at this new place. I just hope that the "upscaling" won't also jack up room rates at the nearby hotels.
     
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