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150-200K Coin in on slots - which program?

Discussion in 'Comps' started by MFreezer85, Sep 8, 2019.

  1. MFreezer85

    MFreezer85 Tourist

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    Hi there,

    I am currently Cosmo platinum with an annual coin in between 150-200K on slots exclusively.

    Average is a about 10 Vegas nights a year so daily coin in average between 15-20K on slots.

    Now my question is what could I expect in comps at mlife or CET?
    Maybe others with similar coin in could specify what offers they receive?
    Also interested in what hosts can provide above the respective marketing offers.
    Don’t need to be the exact coin on but just a ballpark if you are close to this level of play..

    I am really happy at Cosmo but after a couple years only at the same property, I do want to venture out a bit and see what the others are offering.

    Currently this coin in yields 4 nights no black out dates up to the real terrace suite fountain view - midweek sometimes could go up to wraparound.
    275-400 freeplay with 150 resort credit up front.
    I never pay for any food so on the backend the highest was about 800-900$ being comped off ..

    Thanks for any suggestions !
     
  2. pressitagain

    pressitagain High-Roller

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    I do approximately 10 to 12k per day on specialty slots. Salon suite at Bellagio with $600 freeplay and $350 in RC. Pretty much the same type of room class at all the other properties.
     
  3. MFreezer85

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    Ok that’s a start - Thank you!!
     
  4. Paul K

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    Mlife has better hotels. However, if you are okay with the fancy options being Caesars/Nobu and Cromwell, Caesars will suit you a lot more. Diamond vs Gold or Plat at Mlife provides a lot more perks.

    Plus service and perks are slipping with Mlife. I'll keep Diamond and probably take most of my stays to Wynn.
     
  5. DaiLun

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    100K Coin in on slots, if managed properly, would make 7* at CET with no problem. IMHO, the worldwide appeal of CET makes them more attractive than any other program, although once Resorts World opens in Las Vegas, that may change.
     
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  6. AllenAndRossi

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    $25k coin-in in a day on slots at CET will make you Diamond. Even 2 days of $12.5k coin-in on CET slots will make you Diamond. That gets you no resort fees, free valet parking, the $100 dining credit(which has to be used all at once), dedicated Diamond lines and some other perks. It should also get you plenty of better than base rooms comped at all CET properties.

    As CET expert DaiLun said, your total play for the year should make you 7 Stars, which opens more perk and trips than Diamond.

    At CET, $5 coin-in on slots earns 1 Tier Credit. It's $10 on VP for 1 Tier Credit.

    Earn 500 TC's in a day and get 125 bonus TC's.
    Earn 1000 TC's in a day and get 1000 bonus TC's.
    Earn 2500 TC's in a day and get 5000 bonus TC's.
    Earn 5000 TC's in a day and get 10,000 bonus TC's.

    15,000 TC's makes Diamond.
    25,000 TC's makes Diamond with free Laurel Lounge access.
    150,000 TC's makes 7 Stars.

    Gaming day at Vegas CET properties runs from 6:00AM to 5:559AM, which is something to keep in mind for those daily bonus TC's.

    Diamond has some real and useful perks. And it's not hard to reach, especially with your action.

    You'd have 9 CET properties in Vegas to play and stay. And numerous others across the country.
     
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  7. DaiLun

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    @AllenAndRossi - Thanks for filling in the blanks. :headbang: It was someone else's turn. :wiggle:

    I'm getting ready for dinner tomorrow night. Looking over Martorano's menu!! :feedme:
     
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  8. Chuck2009x

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    You didn't say how long your trips are, but as far as strategy:

    I wouldn't recommend planning on fully switching your full allegiance right away.

    If you want to really know what you'll get for that coin-in, divert a full day's play to Bellagio or Aria on one trip, and to Caesars Palace on another. Do all your play there in a single day.

    If you want to just get your feet wet, do anywhere from $2,500 - $5,000 coin-in using the same method, which should get you decent enough comp offers that you'd be able to stay multiple nights on a trip in a standard room to get a feel for whether you like a property well enough. If you have no play history with either chain, it might take even less to get your foot in the door.
     
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  9. AllenAndRossi

    AllenAndRossi Low-Roller

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    I'm here to help:)

    Hope dinner is great!
     
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  10. MFreezer85

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    Thank you for all your detailed replies!

    I actually might try to gamble a day each at CET and MLife and see what kind of offers it’s gonna yield!

    Or would it make sense to contact them directly with my annual statement as proof of play and try to get some offer up front?

    Since I’m spoiled at Cosmo I am mainly interested in Aria, Cesar’s and the Wynn...

    Don’t get me wrong I do love love my“ Cosmo but it does feel somewhat “limited“ after a while to be tied to just one single property.
     
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  11. Iratus

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    Just do front money or a get a line of credit for $25k with another place and you’ll get a host etc straight up. They’ll front accommodation and do airport transfers at that level.

    Do 1 trip with that program and see what you get.

    Dropping 1 trip and 20k of coin in from Cosmo isn’t meaningfully going to change your offers. In fact you might be better spreading yourself around a bit as you’re basically a hosts dream. Frequent visits, predictable income etc. You’re a 25k+ a year EV guest so you’ll be well taken care of wherever. Mid level suite and a few hundred dollars seems about right as pressitagain says, I don’t know if there’s another offer level before your play level. I would say it’d be more but you go a lot so your annual theo gets divvied up against a lot of days so it’s more about the $3000 ADT than your annual total.

    If you like Cosmo that much I think probably Aria is the best match for you. CET don’t have a ‘premium’ contemporary place unless you want to stay at Nobu and I don’t know what the deal with that would be host wise (I suspect if you just give CP your play they won’t give two hoots).
     
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  12. sockobuw

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    I'm confused how to get to 7* with 100,000 coin-in.
    20,000 base tier credits
    20,000 2x multiplier month if played in February
    40,000 daily bonus (not multiplied this year)
    what am I missing that 7* would be no problem?
     
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  13. Multifarious5

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    I'm Cosmo/Mlife. I'm usually 4500- 6000 a day coin-in on slots. Mlife, I get junior suites at any hotel (including tower suites at Aria) and usually 300-400 fp, 150-300 RC. (RC $150 for better properties, 300 for mid tier). With your stats, you're way higher up the food chain, so should do well.

    BUT I a million percent agree with @Chuck2009x on testing the waters first.

    1) Mlife is my second fav to Cosmo, but it has a SLOW turnaround on Corp offers, 2-3 months at times. Your level you will probably be able to score backend comps, but backend comps are always tighter (and more mercurial) than front end, and the whole "one in the hand, two in the Bush" cliche.

    2) We've stayed at Aria and Cosmo for years, and adore both. The end of 2018 and all of 2019 was our "let's explore mid-tier options and see if we get more goodies, special treatment". Nope. We spent as much, if not more at the "step down" places, yet except for an occasional car service, we got less bang for our buck. It'll be Aria and Cosmo moving forward, period. (Except for an occasional MB trip, we DO like MB! )

    3) CET can move much faster on updating offers, but I'm not a CET gal, so I'll let other speak to it.

    Summation: Like @Chuck2009x said, you might dabble, but don't commit 100% till you KNOW you like your other options. At Mlife, in your shoes I'd probably stick to Cosmo on your next trip, and seed Mlife with one really strong day, and see what comes back. (Remember, mlife can take a few months.) You can try for backend comps, if brave. At your level, you probably have a good shot at them. At my level I have to have front end comps to jump.

    CET? If that's your fancy, they do follow up with offers much quicker than mlife, but you'll have to play with hotels/casinos to see where happiest.

    My two cents is have fun, seed, and let us know what you find! That is a very respectable coin-in, and I am looking forward to watching your journey!

    PS I wouldn't gamble each day at CET and Mlife, I'd designate ONE hard-core day each. One heavy-hitter day will register better than multiple smaller days. Have a blast!
     
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  15. MFreezer85

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    Well thank you all for the great inputs! I really appreciate it.

    Probably gonna do one hardcore gambling day each at mlife and CET next trip and only do my usual coin in at Cosmo to keep my offers there. Then I wait and see where this is headed.

    I have the very subjective feeling that there was no significant change in comps or at least upfront offers at Cosmo after increasing my play from about 10K to 20 K coin in - can’t really put my finger on it but it seems after the 10K threshold comps somewhat dried up or did not increase proportionally to play increase.

    It is not that I don’t feel valued there and maybe I do have higher expectations than warranted by my level of play, but I believe that the overall host service could be a bit more individual and catered towards my needs. I am not a very demanding person and I may be a bit apprehensive to ask for some additional little things but at this level of play I would expect a bit more initiative from my host such as to ask if I want to see a show or have a special dinner or need anything in the fridge....
    Maybe I am spoiled by some Four Seasons Properties but they remember after one day how I like my coffee and that I love my morning workout and stock some energy drinks in the fridge - some little things that make you feel really appreciated.

    Maybe in Vegas I need to „invest“ substantially more for these kind of tailored services?

    Maybe I do 2 25K coin in days downtown and be treated like royalty;-)

    Sorry for the long rant... probably just gonna switch it up a bit or maybe gamble less...
     
  16. Chuck2009x

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    I went back and looked at your OP and saw that you were getting upwards of $800 back-end.

    There's a big jump in the room value from a Terrace Suite/Wraparound to the next highest level, so you're probably maxed out on room type at that play level. Your freeplay and dining credit may be a function of short stays, because I'd expect them to be higher if you usually did 4 night stays. Seems like you're getting a decent amount of back-end.

    As for solicitousness of your host, well, I dunno. You might need to come out of your shell a little bit. I'm not sure you are going to find hosts at the upper-level CET or MLife properties moreso. None of Cosmo, MLife or CET pretend to be Four Seasons.

    You probably could shave your play fairly significantly at Cosmo and still get at least the same room type offered.
     
  17. HOSKITE

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    ... that was my thought when read your OP: I'm a new player at the Cosmo, which might help a bit, but @ 10k daily coin-in I get pretty much the same upfront comps as you get at @20k (No wrap-arounds though). So yes: You might have hit a wall there but you DO GET substantial back-end comps.

    I'm aware that the consensus on this board seems to be that Cosmo is most generous / has the best players club, but as far as upfront comps are concerned, MGM/mlife treats me better (Approximately what PRESSITAGAIN gets @ Bellagio).

    Why not try the Cosmo Welcome Offer the other way round? Send your Cosmo offer to some random Aria/Bellagio (+Wynn?) host and see if they are willing to match it.