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Table Games $15 blackjack on the strip?

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I’ve only been to Vegas once post-covid and it was two years ago.

I stayed at the MGM Grand but visited several casinos all up and down the strip during the week and the lowest table minimums I was seeing for blackjack were $25. Pre-Covid I feel like I saw $15 everywhere.

I’m going next month (Oct 27-30) and staying at New York, New York. Does anyone know of any casinos that still over $15 blackjack at night?

I’ll play $25-$50 a hand but sometimes I just want to relax and make my bankroll last.
 
Well, I've seen some photos of Excalibur's billboard promoting live $5 blackjack being dealt 24/7.
I haven't personally been to know if it's a regular dealer game or some sort of stadium situation...

But, with all the hoopla about Vegas being dead lately, I'd say $15 is reasonable to expect in the low- or maybe mid-tier Strip properties.
 
If you're okay with 6:5 bj (you shouldn't be) you should be able to find it anywhere mid tier or lower pretty much guaranteed.

For 3:2 you might have a hard time but I believe 3:2 at $25 min, is significantly better than 6:5 at $15 min.

If anywhere has it, TI would. Depending on your definition of strip, OYO and *technically* South Point should have it too. Other than those 3 places, my next guesses would be Excalibur, Luxor, Linq, and Sahara in that order.
 
If you want to make the trek downtown, you can probably get $15 3/2 at the D and Circa.

Otherwise, on or near the Strip, best bet for $15 3/2 is at TI or Ellis Island.
 
You can for sure find $15 3:2 downtown, almost any time of day at the Steven’s properties. But that’s not what you asked.

$15 6:5 on the strip shouldn’t be hard to find outside of the top tier (Bellagio, Wynn, Venetian, etc….) from morning until at least early evening. In the mornings, you might even run into a $15 3:2 at various places, I’ve even found it at Encore around 8am on my last trip in the spring.
 
Generally, $15 @ 6:5 is the norm throughout center-strip CETs & MGMs. As for when the card flips from $15 to $25, that's a function of day o'the week, how late in the evening, and how busy the tables are.
 

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Plenty of $15 BJ especially during off times. You can even find $10 BJ depending on casino.
 
TriggerMN said:
Do. Not. Play. 6:5. Ever.

If you’re going to do that, just donate your money to charity instead.
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The vast majority of people are largely not impacted by 6:5 or 3:2. They play for entertainment. This is one of those faux outrage things. You really only start to feel it if you're playing $100+ a hand, and typically that pays 3:2 anyway if you've looked enough.
 
HoppinHardWays said:
The vast majority of people are largely not impacted by 6:5 or 3:2. They play for entertainment. This is one of those faux outrage things. You really only start to feel it if you're playing $100+ a hand, and typically that pays 3:2 anyway if you've looked enough.
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The issue is one of bankroll. A good number of people on here said that they prefer to play 3/2, but might be with people who don't have the funds to play $25 minimum tables and so they sit down at a $15 6/5 with their friends..

The valid case is made that its better to play a $25 3/2 game over a $15 6/5 game, where the house edge is 3-4x greater. But that's over a long term, and bankroll decisions are made for the short term.

There was the table at GVR advertised months ago that allowed for 6/5 and 3/2 to be paid at the same table, depending on bet levels. But I even think that was removed.

And what's missing from the OP is what they are even looking for. Are they just looking for $15 mins no matter the payout, or does it have to be 3/2?

Also, I've been a downtown person for 20 years, but say in 2019 (year before Covid), was $15 3/2 common on the Strip?
 
HoppinHardWays said:
The vast majority of people are largely not impacted by 6:5 or 3:2. They play for entertainment. This is one of those faux outrage things. You really only start to feel it if you're playing $100+ a hand, and typically that pays 3:2 anyway if you've looked enough.
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…and this is why we can’t have nice things.

Coming soon, 4:5 blackjack.
 
hail2skins said:
The issue is one of bankroll. A good number of people on here said that they prefer to play 3/2, but might be with people who don't have the funds to play $25 minimum tables and so they sit down at a $15 6/5 with their friends..

The valid case is made that its better to play a $25 3/2 game over a $15 6/5 game, where the house edge is 3-4x greater. But that's over a long term, and bankroll decisions are made for the short term.
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Yes. Speaking as a chronically underbankrolled player myself, probably similar to the majority of Vegas visitors, risk of ruin is a much more relevant metric than house edge. If your trip bankroll is in the hundreds of dollars, then sure, it’s great that the $25 table with better rules gives you a somewhat lower house edge… but it also gives you a dramatically higher chance of getting felted in ten minutes. For such a player who just wants to hang out and play for a couple of hours it’s entirely rational to pick the cheaper 6:5 table.
 
Fipe said:
risk of ruin is a much more relevant metric than house edge
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This is everything in Vegas, and you bet the executives know it.

According to a quick Google search, the average Vegas tourist in 2024 had a gambling budget of $820 and stayed for 4 nights. If you are planning to spend a significant amount of that time gambling, the only way is the lowest stakes you can find, because risk of ruin is really high if you increase the per-bet amount.

And the casinos know it: triple-zero roulette, 6:5 blackjack, crapless craps, hideous VP payables at the 25c (and often 50c) denomination.
You can get better rules & paytables if you up the per-bet amount, but what is your plan when that leaves you bankrupt on day 1 of your 5 day trip?
 
Fipe said:
it’s great that the $25 table with better rules gives you a somewhat lower house edge… but it also gives you a dramatically higher chance of getting felted in ten minutes.
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Let's compare a $25 3:2 table versus a $15 6:5 table, for a given session:
Assuming 4 blackjacks per 60 hands in an hour, all other rules being equal & a $300 buy-in:
The 6:5 player walks away up $21.60.
The 3:2 player walks away up $66.00.
The $25 player can be felted with 12 consecutive losses.
The $15 player can be felted with 20 consecutive losses.

So, the real question is whether or not you believe that a 22% return versus a 7.2% return is worth the risk of losing your first 12 hands in a row.
 
topcard said:
Let's compare a $25 3:2 table versus a $15 6:5 table, for a given session:
Assuming 4 blackjacks per 60 hands in an hour, all other rules being equal & a $300 buy-in:
The 6:5 player walks away up $21.60.
The 3:2 player walks away up $66.00.
The $25 player can be felted with 12 consecutive losses.
The $15 player can be felted with 20 consecutive losses.

So, the real question is whether or not you believe that a 22% return versus a 7.2% return is worth the risk of losing your first 12 hands in a row.
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Of course people understand that you get paid $37.50 on blackjacks at a $25 3/2 table versus $18 on blackjacks at a $15 6/5 table. However, to me, the above insinuates that every hour-long session results in a winner.

The "felred in ten minutes" is hyperbolic, as more than likely youll only get 10 hands at a full table during that time. But how often can you see a player losing 12 units within, say, an hour?
 
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