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Ohio State vs Alabama - College Football Championship

Discussion in 'The Sports Book' started by LVRaiders, Jan 11, 2021.

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  1. LVRaiders

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    Alabama currently -8.5, over/under 75

    • Alabama are 7-1 ATS in their last 8 games against an opponent in the Big Ten conference.
    • Alabama are 4-1 SU in their last 5 games played in January.
    • The total has gone OVER in 5 of Alabama's last 6 games played on a Monday.
     
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    What if neither team wins? Can we just call 2020 a wash and not name a champion?
     
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    I've never been a fan of the so-called playoffs, and I don't see it as being an improvement over the B(ullshit)CS. And that's not sour grapes as my team has made it to the end game under both systems. Having said that, and despite the B1G hijinks to get OSU there and it's limited schedule, both teams do appear deserving.

    The system needs another do-over.
     
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    The BcS and CFP are a highly lucrative beauty pageant, on par with figure skating. There are only a dozen or so programs who will EVER be selected. Even if a team like Iowa State, Mississippi State, Oregon State, etc. wins a “Power Five” Conference, the committee will bend over backwards to pass over the team for a more lucrative ratings / ticket selling program.

    If CFB wanted to do it right, they can have a tournament of conference champions, a play-in game for the bottom conferences, than a Final Eight/Four and Championship. No “at large” teams. If you are not good enough to win your conference, you shouldn’t be eligible to win the NC. Every team in the nation would be eligible (“independents” can join a conference or bugger off). They will never do this, in part to keep the pathetic 30+ bowls going.

    American sports (Pro and “Amateur”) are a farce. Playoffs consisting of losing teams and a majority of teams eligible make the regular season nothing but a glorified exhibition slate. MLB was the last decently run format until the strike and “wild card” teams were allowed after the 1994 debacle. Now they are over 50% in like the rest. It’s the primary reason my interest in sports is limited to Rotisserie Baseball, the EPL and World Cup.
     
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    Money makes the world go around ...

    The ironic thing is that one of the rationalizations with the two-tier playoff and New Year's Six is that it would "open up" such opportunities to more schools. ESPN did a breakdown a week or so back that showed how the CFP actually made it even more of a closed-shop operation.

    Hey, I don't expect purity in human intent around sports and per sentence one above, I'm not naive. But we can still try to make it better. A first but still imperfect step is 10 conferences going to four quarterfinal games. If the Power 5 conference winners get in automatically and "rankings" are used to place the three Group of 5 teams, it's a far sight better than what we have now. If we have to deal with the prima donnas not in a conference, fine. If a BYU or Notre Dame is top 8 give 'em one of the slots. (Of course, only ND gets such nods in the rankings.) Actually, join a conference.
     
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    GO BUCKEYES!!!! Because I grew-up on Ohio and that NEVER leaves you...
     
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    I'll pull for Bama, but I might actually take a visual pass.
     
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    I don't have skin in the game anymore, since I stopped watching college sports after the minor wrist slap given to Penn State. That said, the "powers that be (PTB)" would "allow" the P5 champs, but would use the other three spots for "at large" teams, to ensure a rotation of a dozen profitable programs The PTB will never give an undefeated mid major school a legitimate chance at participating, and more importantly, claw revenue from the chosen few by participating in a playoff.

    The previous method (open bowl game births, dozens of strong independent schools through the early 1990s) was not perfect, but allowed for a greater geographical and program diversity. Teams like Brigham Young, Georgia Tech, Washington, Nebraska, etc. were able to claim a Mythical National Championship based on what they accomplished on the field.

    The current system concentrates recruiting and playoff births to a select privileged few programs, it was by design to exclude 90% of 1A teams from any realistic chance of competing. Conferences have no qualms playing favorites even within their conference, as tOSU's Big "Ten" championship birth illustrated.

    Chalk will nearly always win the NCAA BB tournament (I believe NC State was the lowest seed to ever win), but every team in the nation still enters the season with a legitimate opportunity to be allowed to play in the championship tournament if they win their conference and subsequent tournament games. CFB mirrors Figure Skating, as a few chosen darlings complete for a fancy ribbon and stuffed animals tossed at their feet (though in CFB's case, money is the stuffing), and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
     
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    Funny thing about "mythical" is that the natty is still determined to some degree by ballot.

    I've written here and elsewhere, repeatedly, I'd be very happy with a return to the bowl system.
     
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    This is true. If you are a G5 conference, your chance of winning a Natty ends at the first snap of the first game of the season. If Cincy didn't have a chance to make the playoffs the G5 will never get a shot. We already get so much less than the P5 schools we can never realistically compete.
     
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    Don’t know if OSU can dominate the line of scrimmage the way they did vs Clemson . Hope I’m wrong!
     
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    How many of your guys are sidelined now because of Covid?
     
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    Bama ML and the under.
     
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    Two starting D lineman for starters. That matchup probably would have been an advantage for OSU with Bama's starting center out injured, so that's not good for OSU.
     
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    Game over Bama rolls , barring a major injury. Flores the Dolphins coach must be there linking his chops and watching Smith having the 3rd pick. Tide rocking :headbang:
     
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    Bet the farm on Alabama in my Fantasy sports betting program. I stand to lose cash, but it's fantasy betting. Don't ask me to explain. I put my whole bankroll on Alabama/money line.

    I don't care enough about college sports to care enough about how they rig the football postseason, but even a passively interested spectator like me knows you'll see the same group of schools in the mix every year for those four seats at the table. They'll expand the playoffs eventually. Anything to increase the revenue. Turn some of your second- or third-tier bowl games into first-round playoff games: Jackpot!

    I have never been a fan of NFL playoffs since they expanded the wild card to three teams and started penalizing division winners. It's no guarantee, but the NFL sure wants its no. 1 seeds in the big game, and they only made it a step easier for them to get there this year. They blame it on COVID, but there's no doubt the lamest wild card system yet ain't going away. More games in the postseason? Yeah, don't keep doing that.

    Baseball annoys me, too, but at least the wild card teams no longer get a free pass into the opening round. Or they didn't before COVID. I haven't paid enough attention to how MLB plans to run its playoffs during a normal season, if we ever have another one.
     
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    Roll Damn Tide!!!

     
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    I actually forgot about the game, which makes sense as it was a season to forget. Some teams played 3 games, some 5 and some 6. Maybe they should have had some teams use only right handed QBs and the others left handed! Just glad it's over.
     
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    I'm an ardent CFB fan, to the tune of watching midweek SunBelt or MAC or whatever games involving teams with which I have zero affiliation. Alabama certainly proved itself without an iota of a doubt to be the creamiest of the cream of the crop and I doubt that would've changed. But the system is flawed even without the Covid-caused seasonal challenges of this year. I'm glad it's over, too.
     
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