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Is there a definitive guide to "back end comps?"

Discussion in 'Comps' started by c2cali, Sep 30, 2020.

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  1. FABismonte

    FABismonte Tell my wife I am "about even."

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    That has been my MLife experience and in discussion with an MLife casino host. Each Mlife host on a property gets credit for action at that property.

    CET works differently and I have been told to feel free to play at any CET Vegas casino which is pooled into a global ADT for comp and marketing purposes.
     
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  2. RingofFire

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    "Adding to this post: If I book a stay at CET property (Caesars) then play at all CET properties, will my play at all CET casinos factor in to back end comps or is it only if I play at the hotel/resort I stayed at?

    Thanks, always wondered about this."

    I have typically always stayed at CP and I play at a number of CET casinos and I've never had any issue about getting back end comps.
     
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  3. Jejas

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    I don't intend to say anything here at all.
    But I have to give a thumb up on this.
     
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  5. c2cali

    c2cali Low-Roller

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    I am the original question asker so I can’t answer the latest question based on personal experience but given my “host” is listed as my host on ALL CET properties - it would seem the CET way is that they don’t care as long as you’re doing your gambling at a Caesars location.
     
  6. alexm

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    Your play at all properties is combined regardless of where you stay with CET. Just like all property play is combined for TC bonuses and such.
     
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    It has been mentioned multiple times that CET (at least in Vegas) is likely to wipe out Reward Credits before applying additional back end credits.

    Someone correct me if I am wrong as I have never actually looked to confirm but my understanding is that if you use rewards credits at the Point of Sale (store or restaurant) you do not pay any taxes.
    So if you use Rewards Credits at the time of purchase your $100 meal will remove $100 worth of credits.
    If you charge it to the room, the bill includes taxes so that $100 meal is now $108.38 and uses $8.38 more then if you used points at the time of purchase.
     
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  8. alexm

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    @Guy_ This is correct, but if your host is going to comp off any overages, then it really doesn't matter. If your host is not or has historically left some for you to pay, then yes, use them at POS first. My host has always told me to charge everything to the room and that he would use my reward credits and then cover everything else except for tips. So for me it makes no difference, but for some it may. Especially if you charge more things to your room.
     
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    Perhaps a stupid question - and sorry to hijack the thread a bit: is it considered rude to charge the meal back to your room but pay the (appropriate) tip in cash?
     
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  11. 44inarow

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    And I'd add that it's not rude to do that regardless of if you're charging back to the room. I often tip cash when I pay by credit card. It all still gets reported on taxes (it generally goes into a pool, unless the server pockets it directly, which would be rude), but they get the money more quickly.
     
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  12. c2cali

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    Is that a Vegas standard, pooled tips? As a conservative capitalist here, I ONLY want my server getting the tip, and their support teams. I don't want the lazy server smiling half as much and walking half as fast to share in the glory of what I tip to my server... otherwise what's the point of even giving us discretion as to how much?
     
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    Very standard, yes. In many places, people rotate through, so the person who brings you your food or makes your drink might not be there when you're closing out.
     
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    In my opinion, pooling tips is a fair policy in restaurants. I have many friends who are restaurant owners( more than 10) who all agree.
    The people in the kitchen are more critical to the quality and taste of your meal than the waitress.
     
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    As mentioned by others, it is not rude. Moreover, since all tips charged to the room are never comped (in my experience) it is more efficient to just tip in cash. That way, when you check out, and use any back end comps, the clerk can hand you over a statement showing zero balance, rather than having to pick out the tip portion of charges.
     
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    Agree here.

    I always tip cash at restaurants. It is rare, but a couple of times over the years I have had servers change or add tips to the bill after I've signed the slip. Now I tip in cash and then write "CASH" in big letters in the tip line of the receipt that I sign.
     
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    Funny you mention that - it was my first time not only in Vegas but in the USA completely for me last year. I’d pay by card or charge to room (in-resort dining) but would write cash in the space where the tip goes.

    First person on the trip to serve me was at Aria café. Between me and my wife we had a $55.xx to pay. I asked the waiter to explain me how to do it right and it was ok to tip cash. He said we love cash tips no matter what. I than charged to meal to my room and gave him $15. He said that was a great tip.
     
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    Many in the tip industry prefer cash also because it allows them to easily "hide" the tip (income) from the government, thus lowering their income tax liabilities. If you charge a tip it then goes into the system as a charged tip and is displayed on the recipient's pay stub and W2 as income. Cash is much more easily pocketed, with the government and employer having no knowledge of the income.
     
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    I always tip cash for everything. And while I think tip pooling should be optional (server can take care of his/her bussers bartenders etc) to some degree, I absolutely loathe the concept of mandatory tip pooling universally (table games, drink service, bars, clubs, restaurants). The money should go to the person who did the work, do a crappy job make less money, do a good job make more money. Unfortunately, my experience in restaurants is that most owners and managers prefer tip pooling because they can pay everyone as though they are tipped employees instead of minimum wage requirements. In my state 2.82 is the minimum hourly rate for a tipped employee making 30 dollars in tips per month. If we tip pool I can classify my hostess and busser as tipped employees and pay them way less that minimum wage.
     
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    Trust me, if you're playing at the correct level, you don't have to ask. I get a text every trip at Cosmo from my host at about 930A saying thank you for coming and everything has been taken care of. There is no way on earth a host is going to risk not having you come back the next trip over $1000-1500 worth of F&B. My play level is 7stars with CET and Platinum at Cosmo in 1-2 trips a year at Cosmo and 5-10 at CET properties (locals typically)
     
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