Anyone been arrested while in Vegas?

You only have one job as far as I can see. Lots of pictures and a few videos of the wheels coming off the bus to share with your fellow VMB'ers.

 

This guy needs an intervention, not a trip to Vegas.

 

MMA wannabe? I hate those guys. Assert your dominance at a friendly pre-trip get together. Joke around, wrestle around. As soon as those guys see you are at least willing to throw down they will be a lot more prone to listening to reason.

 

If Jordan had played her cards right, I would've taken her to my go-to place for attire and accessories....Burlington Coat Factory at Crystals.

I'm sure she regrets her poor attitude a year later.

 

I’m amazed that the groom would be friends with a ****** bag like this. Fortunately you only have to deal with him once every few years. If it were me, I’d seriously consider making an excuse not to attend. I know you’re in the wedding, so it’s next to impossible to do so, I just hope whatever he does doesn’t have a negative impact on the groom or you.

 

OK, I'm being serious now;

-getting arrested in Vegas isn't as cute as it used to be. Consequences are getting more and more real in that regard

-getting arrested might be best case scenario for this guy

I think in your mind, getting arrested and him sleeping it off in the drunk tank is the worst that could happen.

What if he picks on the wrong dude? Nevada is right to concealed carry. Somebody has a knife. Somebody is way bigger. You think the fight is over and dude sucker punches him or one of your party. What if instead of him being killed or injured, somebody else is? Innocent party? Cop? Hotel security? One of you guys? You?

Vegas isn't just where regular people go to have a good time. There are truly bad people who like it there too.

Very bad things happen when people can't handle themselves in Vegas.

You should seriously not go. Anybody around this guy while he's on his downward spiral is collateral damage.

I wish you and his bride the best of luck, cuz, you're gonna need it.

 

I understand everyone saying don't go, but that seems extreme. You're going have plane tickets and hotel reservations and all that. Plus, im not gonna have some potential scumbag ruin what should be an awesome time with someone close enough to have in his wedding party.

I'm like you -- always have a contingency plan. If he gets drunk, then maybe going to the club or walking around isn't the best idea.

Getting drunk and all playing at the same BJ table sounds good. Keep the damage within the group.

 

I used to think that way. I am speaking from experience, you think you have contained the situation so that "the drunk" can't do any damage and they take it as a challenge. They want to get drunk, they're gonna get drunk. They want to rage out, they're gonna rage out.

 

I had to put someone on a plane due to an incident on our last trip. He destroyed some hotel property and I had to pay for it and get him out of there before he harmed himself or someone else.

I know things can happen...but I know after that situation, fairly minor overall, I won’t knowingly let anyone put me in a spot like that again.

Luckily, he left a winning sports book ticket and I recouped my money.

 

I was only suggesting the zip ties because let's say the best man starts to really show signs of aggression and the group is about 100% sure he's fixing to start something with someone... wouldn't it eliminate most possible immediate hazards if he's physically restricted from throwing hands? Sure, it might make him even more mad and would probably draw some undesirable stares. But I think that's preferable by a mile compared to what could happen if he gets into a fight.

Perhaps there may be legal implications for restraining him against his will... but doesn't that assume he'd press charges? If the groom and the rest of the wedding party can talk him down from making a fuss over it, I feel like that can be mitigated to be far less trouble than the trouble an actual fight could cause.

Context for others, since this was from a few pages ago: Calder was replying to my suggestion that the OP have a couple of zip ties in his pocket to restrain the "Wannabe MMA" guy if he gets out of hand.

 

Random idea OP... you said he behaves when he's around his wife. If she's not going to be there... perhaps she could be present for a similar effect by video call if things begin to get to "that point" with the best man?

That is... say he's getting drunk and rowdy and is on the brink of getting aggressive. If one of you guys in the wedding party texts his wife and tells her to video call him, she could video call him on a pretext such as "I just wanted to ask you something". If that might put him in a frame of mind to "know better"... it could be worth arranging such a thing in advance.

 

If he's not your friend and if the expectations are he's going to get arrested because he's not a good person I would say it's not your problem. Let someone who actually cares about him deal with his stupidity.

I know that sounds kind of harsh and that you don't want the groom to have to deal with it, but it really isn't your responsibility at all. Maybe whatever ends up happening will open the groom's eyes up.

Focus on enjoying the trip for yourself. You are in no way obligated to even bail him out.

 

Are you suggesting this so she gets an idea of what she's getting? Or you think she's a calming influence on him?

 

The latter. OP stated earlier that the best man tends to behave himself around his wife... so if she can’t be there, video call is the closest thing.

 

Well OK but you know when the new wife smell wears off he'll be doing it around her too...

 

That’s a whole other discussion, but you’re absolutely correct that what you’re describing does tend to happen. The hazard this thread is discussing can definitely manifest itself outside of guys trips, but I feel like that would derail the discussion.

For clarity, the guy in question is the best man who is already married, and we don’t know (nor is it the business of anyone here) how long they’ve been married. But however long it’s been, I’m in agreement that those tendencies can evolve like you said.

 

In college my best friend (who oddly enough is a judge now, lol) was the type of drunk you describe. Let me be as honest as I can, it is impossible to predict what drunks will do. Sometimes I could talk his way out of a fight with dudes looking to kick his ass and there were a few other times where a group of guys will swing on the drunk idiot and everyone the drunk idiot is with.

It's a very real scenario where drunk idiot gets into with someone and a slightly drunk groom jumps into to help him especially if there are more than one guy swinging on drunk idiot. And if DI and the groom are fighting a group of guys it's not unreasonable that you would try to jump into it to get the groom away. Once that happens you're involved, the groom is involved, along with DI. It's a very real possibility that you and/or the groom could all end up in jail with DI and the cops will let the DA decide to sort it out after all the casino recordings and statements are filed.

There are 100s of scenarios where drunk idiot puts you in a situation that hurts you and/or the groom.

In the list of concerns here I would put getting you and the groom home safe over what to do with drunk idiot.

 

You've pretty much said you're baby sitting the guy so the groom can enjoy himself. Make sure you don't drink then because you may have to be sane and sober when the shit hits the fan. My advice, tell them you're not going and book a solo trip in another casino as far away from them! Good luck!

 

Call me a pessimist, but I don't think you can 'fix' these guys.

The Best Man is supposed to look out for the groom, not the other way around. He's on his own, right up to the groom posting bail. Good eye-opener for both of them. Best friends, right?

I'd go on the trip [we all want the report!], just visit the mens room when the fireworks start.

 

I really think the OP is overthinking the situation. It sounds like you are a bit of a “fringe” friend on this trip which is 100% cool. It also sounds like the groom and the rest of the core group of friends are familiar and somewhat accepting of the best friends antics, otherwise they would not remain friends with the dude. So I would say go, hang out and have fun with group. Once things look like they are getting out of control split from the main group and do your own thing. Most likely people won’t even know you are gone. If that doesn’t sound appealing, I would say just stay home. You won’t have a good time and could possibly ruin others good times being the mother hen.