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2 rough hands at 1/3 NLHE

Discussion in 'The Poker Room' started by NeonTurtle14, Jun 24, 2019.

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  1. NeonTurtle14

    NeonTurtle14 I Run the Vegas Hotdog Stand

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    Had a couple of rough hands at the 1/3 tables tonight.... Not looking for a "WWYD" just venting....

    In one hand, I straddle on the button for $10... (in button straddle, SB acts first pre flop at this casino).... SB folds, BB raises to $30, everyone else folds, I have pocket Th Td and call. Flop is Ah Qh Jh, royal draw and second nut flush draw... end up doubling up the BB, he had Kh 8h.

    In the other hand, I was in BB with 72 offsuit, one player in mid position limped in and SB called the $3. Flop is 772, I check, mid position bets all in (very short stack), SB raises all in (has me covered), I snap call. I table my cards, mid position tables his (KK), SB says "I just need a 9 to come out then"... turn was blank and river 9.

    This game can be so evil...
     
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  2. Guardian

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    I feel you. Last night go all in with AsJs, other player calls with Qs6s. Flop is Qh6d6h. Good night Irene.
     
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    just short term variance. We all know these hands happen in poker
     
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  4. NeonTurtle14

    NeonTurtle14 I Run the Vegas Hotdog Stand

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    Of course.... just a couple of stingers hit me all at once. Variance is a bitch.
     
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    To me, not really a "Wow" event. Q6s was 34% to win preflop.
     
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    First hand not so shocking that you lost. Too many things beat 10,10 with that flop.

    Second hand definitely sucks. I think we’ve all been there. Getting beat by a bigger boat feels like crap.
     
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  7. Nevyn

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    As Wallew said, second one is automatic and a pretty horrible beat.

    First one not sure why you got it in unless effective stack was short.
     
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    It all evens out in the long run. I once flopped Kings full of Queens and a woman put me all in! Snap call only to see her make a runner-runner- royal flush. THEN in a in a tournament, I flopped a 9-high flush and got it all in to a flopped Ace high flush. As the pot was getting pushed to the "winner," one guy notices that the river gave me a one-outer to a straight flush. I ended up taking that tournament down.

    Enjoy the journey. Bad beats and suck-outs make for good stories in your old age … like mine.
     
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    On the first hand, he’s probably raising if the BB leads. If the BB checks, then he probably bets. Easily to see all the chips go in (as long as they aren’t super deep). In hindsight, the BB had the only hand that’s ahead where he has no outs.
     
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    Refreshing to hear a story of the other side of things (the second one). You know there are probably many experiences like this one here from other board members that we won't hear about. The ones that get posted are almost always when the person loses a hand they were favored in.
     
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    I’ve definitely lost quite a few times with full house over full house it always feels like crap. You go from that top of the world feeling right into wtf just happened.

    I was in a wild 3 way hand about a year ago when all three of us flopped a flush. I had A high, another guy had K high and the third guy had a double gut shot straight flush. Betting was crazy. Pot was over $1200 at a 1-2 table. Needless to say the guy that flopped a double gut shot hit the straight flush on the river. That really sucked.
     
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    Suited king is the worst thing he could be up against, but he is in bad shape against any broadway with the king of hearts.

    I can certainly see betting if it gets checked to you. As for raising, it depends on the opponent. With those 3 hearts out, you are unlikely to scare a thinking player into thinking you already have the flush. And those cards smash an opening range. A raise incites a heck of a lot of getting it in with a bit worse than a coin flip, and then a not insignificant number where you are dominated, while you are not really dominating anything. So is there enough fold equity for that play? Iffy.

    Raising feels like a default thing to do just because you don't want to play a draw passively and don't want to fold a pretty draw.

    As for the bet, the question then becomes do you keep firing? Again, doesn't seem like the best bluff spot. And for the reasons above, not sure how much you hang around if he fires back at you.

    Anyway, my point being it is neither an automatic gii situation for a bad beat, nor is it one that you would lose infrequently if you did get in. So while the specific hand he was up against was a somewhat bad break, losing the hand is not exactly a bad beat.
     
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    Effective stack was short, BB was a new player in for min (100) who had already lost about 40 of it.
     
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    Ok, makes sense then, although why not just get it in pre?
     
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    I didn't realize how few chips he had or I would have. They were all in on the flop. He checked, I bet a little more than he had, he called it for less/all-in. Poor awareness on my part. Doesn't change the fact I'm gonna lose chips on this hand :)
     
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    My initial reaction was sorta like this...there's tons of Ak, Kh, sets, and 2 pair in his range, and like 0 air against a normal 1/3 V who is raising a straddle pot to 30 from BB. Yeah, he had about the worst hand you could see here, but you are not ahead of his range on the flop.
     
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