B Connected changing 8/27...

View attachment 63931 Ohhhhh, I agree with that. But every 10th, maybe 20th trip you lose a little but still want to go home with a smile so you cash out some points—-not TOO many. Just enough to get home. Haha.

 

BUT seriously, yeah it’s changed. No more easy points on the back end. But if the same play gives the same comps with good games it’s still ok. But once again I say....the roll out / presentation was abysmal.

 

You're definitely right. By the talk of this former Emerald lounge, it sounded like a joke anyway. If your final value from comps doesn't really change as a sapphire, there isn't a real big issue. But VP players that were Emeralds used to earn BConned points 6X faster in Vegas on the old system, and they could turn that into FP or cash. But if that's all they lose...could be worse.

 

I hadn't realised you could get hard cold cash back. I shall withdraw my earlier suggestion that points were 'worthless'.

 

Actually ruby was 1x. Sapphire 2x and emerald 3x not 6x unless comparing to something outside vegas.

 

BConned points were also devalued by half for VP. So Emerald VP players without a multiplier get 6X less than they used to.

 

Crap. U used the word “used” to....how’d I miss that? Deshuettes red chair perhaps? Or 3? Thanks for the clarification.

 

Few more notes from MSS. Triple Deuces (99.92 return with perfect play) does not earn tier points. The bank of 10/7 DB still require $3 for each BC point.

Also asked at slot club desk and was told whatever level one is at on Dec. 31 of this year will carry through for all of 2019.

Peter

 

In my case, my concern is that the same amount of play will change the comps I get. With the new point system, I doubt I can reach Emerald again. I don't know if my Emerald status got me the comps I have received, or just my 50k coin in each trip. We'll see what my host does in 2019 when I start with zero.

 

Me 2 joe. You’re going to comp (assuming you remain) sapphire a suite, limo and gold card(or something equivalent). Once past ruby we are all sapphire so that can’t work. Daily coin in (at risk) must matter or I just don’t see the upside of sapphire.

 

Being Emerald would get my wife a $150 per month spa credit when we go to Biloxi.

 

That's the understatement of the year. If they'd really, really tried, they might have been able to do a worse job of it but I'm not sure how they'd manage it. Maybe announcing that security will now actually follow Rubies and VP players around hissing "Shame!" and "Unclean!" at them. (VP players on the Ruby level would probably be forced to play in a special dungeon basement area.)

I've still got the message about it taking up to 48 hours to update my account. Since we've long since passed that deadline, I can only assume they didn't mean 48 hours in a row. Not that it really matters. I've been Ruby all along and I can't see that I'll be anything else once they officially redo my points. I'm just slightly over 15,000 points with the old system so they're probably trying to figure out how to turn that into negative numbers.

It's bad enough that they don't think we lowly Rubies merit earning any points but what's bugging me more and more is the buffet thing. We're not even worth a lousy buck off the price of the buffet? Really? Even the uppity strip hotels will give you a little discount for having a card. That's just kind of insulting.

 

Gold and silver cards were based on daily expected loss. The calculation was based on average machine hold not theoretical. If the hosts' computer screens start showing value to the casino based on the theoretical loss of a perfect player then all those comps disappear. I agree that Boyd did not fully understand the effect of their changes. They were sold a package that sounded great. Many of them probably believed there would be more Emeralds. But their situation in Las Vegas is unique in that downtown they have the Hawaiian business. I expect that many Hawaiians who go to Vegas a few times per year and play craps and video poker will never make Sapphire and therefore will receive no card comps (BConned points) for their play. They won't be happy.

 

absolutely!
those VP players who still dream the back end comps or host issued comps won't change, they are going to be disappointed.

I wholeheartedly disagree with that.
Boyd knows very clearly what they are doing.
In the new system, hosts will use tier points you earned (which is directly proportional to your theo, no guess work)
to determine your backend comps

 

When I first started with the silver card, Gloria told me that it took 8k daily coin in over 2 trips. A few trips ago, Brenda advised me to up that to 10k. On my last trip, Brenda said that it is now $465 (I think that is the right number) pf either theo or actual daily loss. $30k over 2 days put me slightly under $200 daily theo, and I had the nerve to be $39 ahead. Next silver card will be my last. If room offers dry up, I will visit occasionally to play some 10/7 db with scratchers until they drop me to ruby and restrict scratchers to sapphire and above. Time to ask Curt what he can offer at Plaza as well as Tim at GG. I already use Paula at the D and Jen at 4Q on each trip. Highly recommend them both.

 

I was told the same some months ago. 7.5-8K a day and you’re fine. I’ve been fine since. Never asked to up it. Never played to the number. Just didn’t worry anymore about short playing. Very comfortable until Monday. But still comfortable. We’ll see next trip. And will report right here with film at 11 if @dmr can handle the pace of late night comps.

 

On the loose deuces, did you play least $625 coin-in on that machine? That's the minimum I'd expect for 1 tier credit.

Ouch about the theo/actual rule. But not shocked.

 

I'm one guy from Hawaii who would be very interested to see how this new program will affect the Hawaii market for Boyd.

We have no legal gambling here. But it has been shown that we love to gamble! We have to fly over a huge pond to be able to get our gambol on. Boyd knew this and jumped on this unique niche market.

I think that for the Hawaii people who were already sapphire and emerald, they will continue to be at that level if they continue playing and visiting like they usually do. Maybe the ones who only go once a year or less will be the ones feeling the difference since no activity within 6 months will cause you to lose your points.

Airfare to and from Hawaii is not cheap.

 

It's my understanding that BConned points will expire with no activity in a six month period. I'm curious as to what exactly defines activity. I would assume earning a tier credit would qualify. I'm wondering if just using your card for a meal would also qualify as activity to keep the points active.

 

Rumor here earlier was if you swiped your card for a buffet or to check points or whatever, it could count as a day of gambling in the big picture. Now you would think rumor would be the same result.