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Can I say what cards are in my hand if I am in a hand?

Discussion in 'The Poker Room' started by KKB, Jul 8, 2016.

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  1. KKB

    KKB VIP Whale

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    At a home game & was in a hand heads up. Guy was talking out loud what he thought I had after I bet.
    Another guy says poker room rules are you can say anything except what your hole cards actually are. I said I didn't think that was right, he could share or even show what he has if he wants.
    Anyone know for sure?
     
  2. RunningRam

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    It's poor etiquette to say what you have while the hand is live. That applies to everyone whether or not they are still in the hand. You never know when you are giving someone an advantage by talking. Once the hand is over, it's fine to talk about your cards.
     
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    sxr007 Low-Roller

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    Cash games. You can only talk about the hand when you have a hand and it's heads up. At that point you can talk about whatever and even show your cards if you wish. When there are more then two players you can't talk about the hand because you could influence the other players with hands. Tournament play can be different and usually even more strict.
     
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    At a casino, I never reveal my hand unless I have to or am really sure that it would put someone on tilt. I generally like to not give any information to anyone that I don't have too.
     
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    I think the reasoning behind not revealing your hand in a head-to-head match-up, is because who wins, and how much they win can affect the other players in future hands unless both players leave the table immediately after the hand. This may affect other players more so in tournament play. In cash games they allow splitting the pot so it's not as big a deal.
     
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    Pretty sure that if you're last to act after the river you can say or even flip the cards to reveal what you have. Not sure what the actual ruling is but I see it happen often.

    For example:

    Heads up, the river is a card that makes 3 of a flush, opponent shoves and the player last to act has, say, a set. "Man, did you really catch a flush? Is my set of tens no good here?" Etc.
     
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    Different rooms have different rules, so please take that into consideration. My understanding from several trips strictly to play poker is as follows:

    Cash games: No talking about your cards in the current hand unless you are in the hand and it's heads up. At that point generally anything is allowed. You can show your cards as soon as it gets to heads up, even if it's preflop. In fact, I've even seen someone flip over pocket Aces preflop heads up because they were scared of losing the hand and wanted to win the $15 in the pot at the time. The other player showed KK and folded, which he never would have folded otherwise, costing the player with Aces a lot of money.

    Tournaments: There are strict rules for tournaments. The nicer the place you play, the stricter they are. However, showing your hand is never allowed until showdown or action is complete. Some places, such as Aria, don't even allow table talk when heads up. It takes some of the fun out of the game but they're are a much more serious place, hence the stricter rules.

    Hope this helps somewhat!
     
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    I was told that in any card game you cannot tell the truth. You can only lie.
     
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    Hmmm...have played Aria tourneys numerous times & have definitely heard plenty of table talk in a heads up situation. I haven't played the last couple trips, perhaps they have gotten more strict.

    I do recall at Aria mucking my cards out of turn to do a quick bathroom break. Got scolded for that; was told I was NOT to leave the table until it was my turn to act or I would be "grounded" for a full orbit. Okey doke.
     
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    Absolutely infuriating when others talk about a hand when they aren't in it!
     
  11. wildbilly

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    Rules between tournaments abd cash game vary on this subject. Tournaments are more strict to prevent collusion and chip dumping. The rules also vary between rooms.
     
  12. Bazzito52

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    In most rooms I've ever played in, discussion of hands -even by those not involved in it - will disqualify a bad beat jackpot.

    I think "Don't Ask - Don't Tell" is always the best policy. Why should everyone at the table lose out on a payday just because some smart-ass can't keep his mouth shut??
     
  13. TrewBrew

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    I only play home games and we play basically anything goes, but you have to take it with a grain of salt the player could be lying.

    for what its worth I was watching WPT a while ago and a player mentioned what he had in his hand and was made to sit out a round of hands, He was warned one time and penalized the second.
     
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